‘Cold approach’ pick up is highly ineffective(insider AMA)

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Hey guys,
I’m would consider myself an insider in that I’ve met and hangout with almost all the coaches out there and met them in person and their students as well as the so called best guys at this in the community who live in the big cities.

My conclusion is that cold approach pick up is highly ineffective in general. It has a low ROI. You can ask me anything.



nope
more ineffective is stay at home doing nothing, also you don't take into account the looks factor
is not the same a male model VS you which I imagine you are about from ugly to average

cold approach works very fine in spas in summer where young women are more open to new adventures
the better looking you are the best chances to fuck lot of sluts
in a noisy city cold approach could make you lost time and you will have lot of flakes, specially if you are average or inferior
yet being average or superior in the looks scale you will fuck some slut if you have patience

Fabie wrote:nope
more ineffective is stay at home doing nothing, also you don't take into account the looks factor
is not the same a male model VS you which I imagine you are about from ugly to average

cold approach works very fine in spas in summer where young women are more open to new adventures
the better looking you are the best chances to fuck lot of sluts
in a noisy city cold approach could make you lost time and you will have lot of flakes, specially if you are average or inferior
yet being average or superior in the looks scale you will fuck some slut if you have patience


any approaching doesn't work period if you're sub 5
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i'm an 18 year old virgin i cant breath chew or sleep i have constant head aches i'm bullied by my family i'm ugly as fuck and everybody would be happier if i ate a bullet

You guys put too much emphasis on looks. Its a combination of things that get you laid. I’ve seen good looking guys approach, get a number and then go alone to jerk off. Or feel sad and leave :lol:



Acrobar100 wrote:You guys put too much emphasis on looks. Its a combination of things that get you laid. I’ve seen good looking guys approach, get a number and then go alone to jerk off. Or feel sad and leave :lol:


No we dont, becasue if you don’t pass both the looks and race test with a woman, it’s game over, lights out.

PS. Pua/dating coaches are scam artists.
This is what happens whenever I approach women.
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Acrobar100 wrote:You guys put too much emphasis on looks. Its a combination of things that get you laid. I’ve seen good looking guys approach, get a number and then go alone to jerk off. Or feel sad and leave :lol:


Nonsense! Looks are the limiting factor, and if your physical attractiveness (basically face and height) is below the threshold of sensitivity necessary to cause the necessary stimulation, everything else does not matter. Now you can project confidence, sympathy, sociality and extroversion, which will not help you if your face is not pleasant/seductive for females. :pistoldouble: :rambo: :uzi:

Necessarily be handsome, with more than 5'11 (besides this, if you also have a muscular body you could become a Chad). Everything else is garbage!
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mopdop wrote:any approaching doesn't work period if you're sub 5


for sub 5s I'm sure cold approach could work with below average females and ugly ones
those females are easy to anyone in their league or superior
I've seen sub 5s approaching ugly women with success in night clubs, if worked there must work in the street too



Social circle and warm approach, they're better

Cold approaches still can be good though in the summer, a goodlooking guy can get results fairly easily

KnightCavalier wrote:
Acrobar100 wrote:You guys put too much emphasis on looks. Its a combination of things that get you laid. I’ve seen good looking guys approach, get a number and then go alone to jerk off. Or feel sad and leave :lol:


Nonsense! Looks are the limiting factor, and if your physical attractiveness (basically face and height) is below the threshold of sensitivity necessary to cause the necessary stimulation, everything else does not matter. Now you can project confidence, sympathy, sociality and extroversion, which will not help you if your face is not pleasant/seductive for females. :pistoldouble: :rambo: :uzi:

Necessarily be handsome, with more than 5'11 (besides this, if you also have a muscular body you could become a Chad). Everything else is garbage!


Hundred times this. In college, I was socially awkward as fuck with anxiety but i was young, fit, had better skin and tall. Girls would approach me left and right even when I couldn't hold a proper conversation. Intellectuality and status only work on older women(+28). To get young girls, you need looks that make them feel hot when they imagine they are kissing you, touching your skin or feeling your desiring exhale.
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Acrobar100 wrote:Hey guys,
I’m would consider myself an insider in that I’ve met and hangout with almost all the coaches out there and met them in person and their students as well as the so called best guys at this in the community who live in the big cities.


My conclusion is that cold approach pick up is highly ineffective in general. It has a low ROI. You can ask me anything.


Welcome Acrobar, your leaks are really appreciated, I would like to know just a couple of things:

1) What is the average success rate of a normal looking student compared with the average success rate of an instructor

2) What kind of braiwashsng strategies are you encouraged to enforce on your students to make them think that what they're learning is more effective than what it is in reality?

Thanks in advance

Basically all PUA is a scam and looks are important, but don't forget women like thuggish masculine guys, it makes them attracted to otherwise average or ugly men and liberal white women love ethnic, mainly black men to prove how not racist they are. On the weekend I saw a gorgeous young white blonde JB dating a very plain looking lanklet nigger with tiny frame. How did this guy get laid? WITH RACE, being black or ethnic that isn't white is such a MAJOR advantage with younger women.
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The thing about cold approach is that the vast majority of the time, it is creepy (regardless of who the guy is). At the very least, it is awkward/uncomfortable for everyone involved. It's like panhandling for dates. That's especially true if it feels contrived rather than organic/spontaneous.

A small percentage of guys may have the skills to overcome this, and make cold approach seem natural and fun to the woman. But the kinds of guys with those skills probably don't need to do cold approach. They're probably doing fine with women without it.

ThEtRuThSeEkEr wrote:
Acrobar100 wrote:Hey guys,
I’m would consider myself an insider in that I’ve met and hangout with almost all the coaches out there and met them in person and their students as well as the so called best guys at this in the community who live in the big cities.


My conclusion is that cold approach pick up is highly ineffective in general. It has a low ROI. You can ask me anything.


Welcome Acrobar, your leaks are really appreciated, I would like to know just a couple of things:

1) What is the average success rate of a normal looking student compared with the average success rate of an instructor

2) What kind of braiwashsng strategies are you encouraged to enforce on your students to make them think that what they're learning is more effective than what it is in reality?

Thanks in advance


Great questioned! Sorry, I got locked out of my account and had to create a new one.
1-I’ll assume you mean lays when you say average. For average student Skype:0 lays, bootcamp:0 lays, two week immersion:0 lays, one month immersion 1 lay, if its real or not it’s up for debate. For coaches if they are legit and have muttiple systems set up I’ll say 4 lays per month.

2-Surpringly very little. 80% of students are highly impresionable people and will believe anything the coach tells them at face value. Therefore, the coach has to focus on making conving books, audios, videos, webinars. The students taking his live program is a reward. Since most of the students have seen his material they asume competence and that the coach is already the man. These leads to the coaches being lazy on bootcamps, giving course correction feedback, giving vague feedback, doing very little in general. I even heard a coach got drunk on bootcamp. Yet, nobody told him anything, instead everybody defended him.

people dont want what they dont want and they dont want ur face

HEY! "Cold approach" (anything beyond "hello" and walking away) is a crime and must stop! Depending on circumstances and state, it could (and should) be prosecuted as harassment, nuisance, obstructing free movement, disorderly conduct, stalking, sexual assault, indecent exposure, bullying, etc.

https://twitter.com/bbcthesocial/status ... 9201938433

If you witness a "cold approach" being committed, you must intervene (e.g., "hey, man that's not cool") and inform the victim that you saw everything and would be happy to help her file a police report and testify, if necessary. Having a bystander say or do something could make a big difference in ending the harassment scenario, even if all you feel safe doing or have time to do is check in with the harassed woman to see if she is okay, you still can have a huge positive impact. Just make sure not to creep her out even more.

To help end "cold approach," support organizations like Men Can Stop Rape, the Coaching Boys Into Men program at Future without Violence, and the global Man Up Campaign.

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copebydeath wrote:
KnightCavalier wrote:
Nonsense! Looks are the limiting factor, and if your physical attractiveness (basically face and height) is below the threshold of sensitivity necessary to cause the necessary stimulation, everything else does not matter. Now you can project confidence, sympathy, sociality and extroversion, which will not help you if your face is not pleasant/seductive for females. :pistoldouble: :rambo: :uzi:

Necessarily be handsome, with more than 5'11 (besides this, if you also have a muscular body you could become a Chad). Everything else is garbage!


Hundred times this. In college, I was socially awkward as fuck with anxiety but i was young, fit, had better skin and tall. Girls would approach me left and right even when I couldn't hold a proper conversation. Intellectuality and status only work on older women(+28). To get young girls, you need looks that make them feel hot when they imagine they are kissing you, touching your skin or feeling your desiring exhale.


You forgot something about young chicks. One, looks means she'll be blabbing constantly to her friends. This is an opportunity, but you might have to take it on fate that her friends wanna fuck you. You can tell when you see her friends again, they're not real good about hiding their attraction.

Two: Figure something out to fuck the living shit out of her the first time you jump into bed. Personally, I used to rely on vicodin. Go out drinking -- that helps too -- catch a good buzz. Keep drinking unless you're starting to get stupid drunk. Then, on the way home, pop the vicodin.

After four hours, I had to fake an orgasm. But that girl will never be fucked that way again no matter who she does. Between us, things didn't work out. She used me for sex. When I realized that was what happened, for some reason I still don't fully understand, that bothered me.

You know? I wanted to fuck her, I fucked her silly. I guess I thought there was potential there because there was, maybe I should just have set my sights on fucking the living shit out of her. I worked it out like, Well, I've used girls before, this one used me.

Still, it's a fucked up thing to be bummed the fuck out because a girl used you for sex.

I'm not sure about viagri. It gives you an erection, I got that part. Apparently, a lot of guys who don't need it use it because they can fuck longer on it. You might wanna give that a try if you don't have serious heart problems.

If you do have serious heart problems and you wanna give it a go anyway, just get your affairs in order. Your last will and testament, leaving everything to your parents including their basement after all those years.

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