I stopped cutting

About 196 lbs at 17% bodyfat according to tape measure.

I stopped because:
Bench 1RM dropped 15 lbs
Overhead Press dropped dramatically
Squat dropped about 20 lbs

Deadlift hasn't dropped

So I lost muscle and fat.

Cutting made me realize I need gyno surgery as it wouldn't go away by cutting alone as I was cutting i noticed I actually have lumps behind my nipples. Which is gyno not bodyfat.

The surgery you can get for free in Canada I heard.

How fast are you cutting?
If you're at 17% you should keep going tbh, that's not good enough
You may need to just slow down and stop being a perfectionist about it
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ConcernedBimbo wrote:

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My gym bro told me to do a recomp ie caloric surplus on workout days and 500 deficit on non workout days and I cut pretty fast but my weight fluctuated a bit it's true. Mostly on a cut I ate 1500 to 1800 calories with a few cheat days when I didn't have time to cook. But never went over 2500 calories which would be maintenance

I lift 4 days a week. Cardio on off days ie 1 hour of sprints run 60 secs jog 30 secs repeat. I walk pretty much 15 to 30 km a day at work
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That's a hell of a lot of cardio- your maintenance is actually well higher than 2500, most likely around 3000- so no wonder you are losing muscle, you are 'overtraining' or causing too much damage to the muscles and not allowing adequate recovery

Bring that sprint cardio down to 15 minutes from 60 minutes and for simplicity's sake you could just aim for one calorie number every day instead of cycling your calories which is a meme diet.

Manipulating variables while on a diet can be a disaster- in the past I would decrease calories or pile on extra reps or cardio when I felt I was at a lull in my diet- this resulted in losing weight more quickly, giving an illusion of lost fat, but really I was burning muscle which became very clear in retrospect (and my lifts in the gym showed it)

small ab muscles need a pretty low bf to come out (I mean ab muscles ... one thing what makes you look lean, the bigger your abs the more easily they are visible with high bf)

next who has bigger veins and less under skin water ...

fat distribution

and we care about subcutaneous fat "only"

though most of those guys in video were bodybuilders and clearly those numbers were ...

who has more muscle can have more fat to still have a same bf percentage than another one

but this makes a difference when weight differences at same height are drastic

FLAYER wrote:That's a hell of a lot of cardio- your maintenance is actually well higher than 2500, most likely around 3000- so no wonder you are losing muscle, you are 'overtraining' or causing too much damage to the muscles and not allowing adequate recovery

Bring that sprint cardio down to 15 minutes from 60 minutes and for simplicity's sake you could just aim for one calorie number every day instead of cycling your calories which is a meme diet.

Manipulating variables while on a diet can be a disaster- in the past I would decrease calories or pile on extra reps or cardio when I felt I was at a lull in my diet- this resulted in losing weight more quickly, giving an illusion of lost fat, but really I was burning muscle which became very clear in retrospect (and my lifts in the gym showed it)


Excellent advice you are probably right as some days I feel faint but got used to it and yesterday I just binge ate a ton of food due to sheer hunger.

My leaning down is at 5 weeks- bodywt 141.7 lbs, 40" chest 30" waist (31.5 at navel) 13" biceps 13.6" neck

8 weeks-
139 lbs, 39.5-40 chest, 29" waist, 13.6 neck, 13" biceps

Lifts at 205x5x5, 145x3x5, 230x5, 97.5x3x5

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