why PUA gurus are against prostitution

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Because they don't want you spending your money on prostitutes. They would rather you spend your money buying their game PUA material and boot camps. God forbid if you just buy sex directly, the PUA losers would go out of business!



Not all PUA gurus are against it, I found a few that advocate it such as David D. (in his "Power Sexuality" program, indirectly), Stan "The Man" Connor, Brent Tate, and Rion Williams (again, indirectly). But some have come out against it such as Neil Strauss (in "The Game"), and more recently, RSD Jeffy. It's a controversial topic. David D., seems to imply getting over your fear of sex is fundamental to being able to do cold approach, Rion suggests lack of sexual experiences, and repeated rejections from cold approach will destroy your ego and motivation, so you need to initially pay for sex to give yourself positive reinforcement, Stan "The Man" suggests gaining sexual experience is more important than the risk of catching STDs, and Brent Tate sees "paying for sex" as part of how the game is played in certain parts of the world. Those against it seem to think it is damaging to your "game." I don't think it is simply a money issue.
"you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women." Tony Montana

beta wrote:Not all PUA gurus are against it, I found a few that advocate it such as David D. (in his "Power Sexuality" program, indirectly), Stan "The Man" Connor, Brent Tate, and Rion Williams (again, indirectly). But some have come out against it such as Neil Strauss (in "The Game"), and more recently, RSD Jeffy. It's a controversial topic. David D., seems to imply getting over your fear of sex is fundamental to being able to do cold approach, Rion suggests lack of sexual experiences, and repeated rejections from cold approach will destroy your ego and motivation, so you need to initially pay for sex to give yourself positive reinforcement, Stan "The Man" suggests gaining sexual experience is more important than the risk of catching STDs, and Brent Tate sees "paying for sex" as part of how the game is played in certain parts of the world. Those against it seem to think it is damaging to your "game." I don't think it is simply a money issue.


It's not damaging to your game. It gives you huge self confidence. It "damages" you because you lose the ability to tolerate women's bullshit when you can just go out and BUY sex. So PUA/game becomes a massive waste of time.

It's a fallacy that "PUA guru's are against prostittution", when many engaged in it themselves.

Only Tyler RSD from the still standing RSD did a video lambasting prostittuion 5 years ago in early 2013 BUT his comments section it was a backlash by even pua fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLjvzs6KVo
It didn't take a genius to understand that a bootcamp fee could afford a whole roster of escorts,sex workers, mail order brides and prostitutes.
When the goal of men is to get laid, in abundance in in casual encounters does it really matter what methodology it is?
Considering most men don't have the required height (6 foot 2 is minimum these days) and attractive face, pua is not a path to getting laid, only stonewall and rejection.
Also what was Tyler doing in a Mexican prostitution hotspot in the first place?

Here are some hooker fucker PUAs (whether active or inactive), their companies and locations they frequent to fuck prostitutes. They also did so before during or after being pua coaches.

SINN- (Mystery Method/Love Systems)- Thailand
Sheriff- (Mystery Method/Love Systems)- Thailand
Roosh V- (Return of Kings- Roosh V Forum)- Eastern Europe
Owen Cook- Tyler RSD (Real Social Dynamics)- Tijuana Mexico
Johnny Berba- (Johnny Berba)- Soho London
George Godfrey- (Geo Godley Worldwide Record Blog)- Soho London
Nick Krauser- (Krauser PUA Blog)- uses Amazon books sales to fund his trips to Amsterdam red light district
Matt Forney- (Return of Kings- Roosh V Forum)- Phillipines
Jeffy- (Real Social Dynamics)- Amsterdam/Dominican Republic
Nick Quick- (Adonis, Charming Rogue, Same Night Lay System)- Columbia/South America
Gunwitch- (Gunwitch method)- Tijuana Mexico



rooshV will ban you if you talk about prostitution and the RoK site is against it

AllWomenAreLikeThat wrote:It's a fallacy that "PUA guru's are against prostittution", when many engaged in it themselves.

Only Tyler RSD from the still standing RSD did a video lambasting prostittuion 5 years ago in early 2013 BUT his comments section it was a backlash by even pua fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLjvzs6KVo
It didn't take a genius to understand that a bootcamp fee could afford a whole roster of escorts,sex workers, mail order brides and prostitutes.
When the goal of men is to get laid, in abundance in in casual encounters does it really matter what methodology it is?
Considering most men don't have the required height (6 foot 2 is minimum these days) and attractive face, pua is not a path to getting laid, only stonewall and rejection.
Also what was Tyler doing in a Mexican prostitution hotspot in the first place?

Here are some hooker fucker PUAs (whether active or inactive), their companies and locations they frequent to fuck prostitutes. They also did so before during or after being pua coaches.

SINN- (Mystery Method/Love Systems)- Thailand
Sheriff- (Mystery Method/Love Systems)- Thailand
Roosh V- (Return of Kings- Roosh V Forum)- Eastern Europe
Owen Cook- Tyler RSD (Real Social Dynamics)- Tijuana Mexico
Johnny Berba- (Johnny Berba)- Soho London
George Godfrey- (Geo Godley Worldwide Record Blog)- Soho London
Nick Krauser- (Krauser PUA Blog)- uses Amazon books sales to fund his trips to Amsterdam red light district
Matt Forney- (Return of Kings- Roosh V Forum)- Phillipines
Jeffy- (Real Social Dynamics)- Amsterdam/Dominican Republic
Nick Quick- (Adonis, Charming Rogue, Same Night Lay System)- Columbia/South America
Gunwitch- (Gunwitch method)- Tijuana Mexico


That's an impressive list. I totally agree with your point about methodology not mattering, only results-Tony Robbins makes this point. You can add to your list, Bobby Rio who moved to Columbia. It's so ironic that the very PUAs who criticize prostitutes have used them. For some men, prostitution may be the only or best option. And money is being spent regardless if you are hiring hookers or practicing club game and dating, in fact, you are saving time using hookers. Paying for sex is only really a problem if you want a long-term relationship, or to get married. But given that most PUAs don't even promote that end-goal, it is strange that they oppose prostitution.

beta wrote:For some men, prostitution may be the only or best option. And money is being spent regardless if you are hiring hookers or practicing club game and dating, in fact, you are saving time using hookers. Paying for sex is only really a problem if you want a long-term relationship, or to get married. But given that most PUAs don't even promote that end-goal, it is strange that they oppose prostitution.


Working from last sentence backwards, explains the very problem PUA fans experience. Even they, PUA fans, don't know what they want, cause with prostitution it really is guaranteed sex on a very inexpensive platter.
Also with relationships they, incels and PUAs, think its all Dawson's Creek (old-cel reference sue me) whereby if you spill your autistic ramblings of love to your local crush Brunette (Katie Holmes) or platinum blonde (Michelle Williams) and pure sex. In reality crushes are unrequited love who care little about their secret admirers, they even resent and are disgusted by them.

Yes it begs the question, are PUA students even eligable for the "dating pool" in the first place? 99% of the time the answer is no but PUA companies wanted your money regardless without a vetting or screening process.
Guys make fools of themselves or end up on a sex offenders registered.



AllWomenAreLikeThat wrote:
beta wrote:For some men, prostitution may be the only or best option. And money is being spent regardless if you are hiring hookers or practicing club game and dating, in fact, you are saving time using hookers. Paying for sex is only really a problem if you want a long-term relationship, or to get married. But given that most PUAs don't even promote that end-goal, it is strange that they oppose prostitution.


Working from last sentence backwards, explains the very problem PUA fans experience. Even they, PUA fans, don't know what they want, cause with prostitution it really is guaranteed sex on a very inexpensive platter.
Also with relationships they, incels and PUAs, think its all Dawson's Creek (old-cel reference sue me) whereby if you spill your autistic ramblings of love to your local crush Brunette (Katie Holmes) or platinum blonde (Michelle Williams) and pure sex. In reality crushes are unrequited love who care little about their secret admirers, they even resent and are disgusted by them.

Yes it begs the question, are PUA students even eligable for the "dating pool" in the first place? 99% of the time the answer is no but PUA companies wanted your money regardless without a vetting or screening process.
Guys make fools of themselves or end up on a sex offenders registered.


Just write your secret crush a love poem and then she will immediately fall in love with you and you will both live happily ever after just like a Disney movie.

KNOWING THAT PROSTITUTION EXISTS GAVE ME A FEELING OF ABUNDANCE, THAT WOMEN ARE LOWER THAN ME AND IF I CANNOT PICK UP, I CAN PAY $60 AND GET SEX FROM A WOMAN. PROSTITUTION LOWERS THE VALUE OF WOMEN.

Luke krogh afc adams ex coach paid strippers in front of me. He literally gets chicks who look like decimals on a scale of 1-10. Plus admitted to being autistic and using drugs to get girls.

Instinct wrote:Luke krogh afc adams ex coach paid strippers in front of me. He literally gets chicks who look like decimals on a scale of 1-10. Plus admitted to being autistic and using drugs to get girls.


what about shemales, bro?

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