Theory of Reality

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An excellent example showing how the neurotypicals have deficient theory of reality, which ironically leads them to believe that autists have deficient theory of mind

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/obs ... eir-lives/

As compared with 34 neurotypical people, those with Asperger’s syndrome were significantly less likely to invoke a teleological response—for example, saying the event was meant to unfold in a particular way or explaining that God had a hand in it. They were more likely to invoke a natural cause (such as blaming an illness on a virus they thought they were exposed to) or to give a descriptive response, explaining the event again in a different way.


How the world works according to autists:

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How the world works according to neurotypicals:

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The neurotypicals view this as deficient theory of mind, because they seem to believe theory of mind is literally the theory that there is a mind that controls all of existence

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or to give a descriptive response, explaining the event again in a different way

what?

LOL, that kind of reminds me of when you couldn't grasp the difference between "why you met your wife" with "how you met your wife" giving a descriptive answer to a "why?" question.

Maybe autism deficiency lies somewhere there - they don't invoke supernatural explanations only because they don't focus on cause and effect, just give a passive description of what happened.

Just guessing here though.

Anyway MRZ, the proof is always simple:

If women don't want to fuck you due to your condition - it is negative

Women don't flock to autists , therefore autism is a debilitating disease and makes you inferior to neurotypicals

You can COPE and make-up ways in which you are better than them, but it won't change reality, you still won't be getting laid.

Or you can try to understand the ways in which you are inferior and try to remedy them or adjust your life so as to try and lower their negative influence.



Rotting Penis wrote:
or to give a descriptive response, explaining the event again in a different way

what?

LOL, that kind of reminds me of when you couldn't grasp the difference between "why you met your wife" with "how you met your wife" giving a descriptive answer to a "why?" question.

Maybe autism deficiency lies somewhere there - they don't invoke supernatural explanations only because they don't focus on cause and effect, just give a passive description of what happened.

Just guessing here though.


They do focus on cause and effect, the reason why they met their wife is because they went to the store and she was there. That is cause and effect, the cause was going to the store, the effect was meeting their wife. The neurotypicals are just schizophrenic so they give answers such as it was fated by God to be in such a way, like we are not witnessing deficient theory of mind here but rather are observing intact theory of reality, however this is divergent from the neurotypicals in being part of actual reality rather than part of their convergent psychotic disorder, so they try to characterize the lack of their insanity as being a pathological deficit rather than the lack of one of the positive symptoms of their schizophrenia.

and what is a virus in your opinion mrz
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mrz wrote:
Rotting Penis wrote:what?

LOL, that kind of reminds me of when you couldn't grasp the difference between "why you met your wife" with "how you met your wife" giving a descriptive answer to a "why?" question.

Maybe autism deficiency lies somewhere there - they don't invoke supernatural explanations only because they don't focus on cause and effect, just give a passive description of what happened.

Just guessing here though.


They do focus on cause and effect, the reason why they met their wife is because they went to the store and she was there. That is cause and effect, the cause was going to the store, the effect was meeting their wife. The neurotypicals are just schizophrenic so they give answers such as it was fated by God to be in such a way, like we are not witnessing deficient theory of mind here but rather are observing intact theory of reality, however this is divergent from the neurotypicals in being part of actual reality rather than part of their convergent psychotic disorder, so they try to characterize the lack of their insanity as being a pathological deficit rather than the lack of one of the positive symptoms of their schizophrenia.

That's still HOW you met your wife, but that's in another thread, no need to beat this topic again.

Besides you shouldn't say that all autists are the same and think in the same manner, because you don't know them all.

You can only say about yourself, which is as far from assessing objective reality as possible.

You have fucked up neurotransmitters which prevents you from seeing reality objectively.



Iced Earth wrote:and what is a virus in your opinion mrz

Pointless, he has no clue, he will just look it up on Wikipedia and copy/paste 3 pages, LOL

Rotting Penis wrote:
Iced Earth wrote:and what is a virus in your opinion mrz

Pointless, he has no clue, he will just look it up on Wikipedia and copy/paste 3 pages, LOL


I don't need to look it up on wikipedia, my understanding is that a virus is a nonliving (somewhat debated) piece of genetic encoding that subverts cells of its host to aide in its reproduction, they typically mutate frequently in the process I believe though some are more stable than others.

Rotting Penis wrote:
mrz wrote:
They do focus on cause and effect, the reason why they met their wife is because they went to the store and she was there. That is cause and effect, the cause was going to the store, the effect was meeting their wife. The neurotypicals are just schizophrenic so they give answers such as it was fated by God to be in such a way, like we are not witnessing deficient theory of mind here but rather are observing intact theory of reality, however this is divergent from the neurotypicals in being part of actual reality rather than part of their convergent psychotic disorder, so they try to characterize the lack of their insanity as being a pathological deficit rather than the lack of one of the positive symptoms of their schizophrenia.

That's still HOW you met your wife, but that's in another thread, no need to beat this topic again.

Besides you shouldn't say that all autists are the same and think in the same manner, because you don't know them all.

You can only say about yourself, which is as far from assessing objective reality as possible.

You have fucked up neurotransmitters which prevents you from seeing reality objectively.



How you met your wife is 'at the store you bumped into her', why you met your wife is 'because you went to the store and bumped into her'.

mrz wrote:How you met your wife is 'at the store you bumped into her', why you met your wife is 'because you went to the store and bumped into her'.


[..]to give a descriptive response, explaining the event again in a different way

Seems to me, like for you "why?" is pretty shallow and those you call "neurotypicals" understand "why?" in a deeper sense and only refer to theological explanations when they don't have an answer.

Another example is your tirades against the "PIC", which are very shallow. You never asked yourself what lies behind it, what reason they have, what is the mechanism behind it, but only write descriptive essays or give very shallow descriptive answers like "because they believe in religion" (followed by another 2000 word descriptive tirade)

Rotting Penis wrote:Seems to me, like for you "why?" is pretty shallow and those you call "neurotypicals" understand "why?" in a deeper sense and only refer to theological explanations when they don't have an answer.

Another example is your tirades against the "PIC", which are very shallow. You never asked yourself what lies behind it, what reason they have, what is the mechanism behind it, but only write descriptive essays or give very shallow descriptive answers like "because they believe in religion" (followed by another 2000 word descriptive tirade)


Lol yeah they understand 'why' so deeply that they can only answer it with things that aren't real, their psychosis is actually a manifestation of their deep understanding. I have an answer, the reason why you met her is because you went to the store. Out of their deeper understanding they lack an answer and so say it was because of a mystical reason, lmao.

I always answer what lies behind it, it is a slave trafficking conspiracy with the intention of consolidating power and diverting trillions of dollars to the parasite infestation. The reason why they make up religions is so that they can obfuscate their slave trafficking conspiracy from the delusional drones who have bought into their lies, the mechanism of their conspiracy is that they fabricate fraudulent studies, propaganda leaflets, mythological narratives, and mystical mechanisms of action, and then they spam these at the drones as if they are reality, the drones read about or otherwise are exposed to their pseudorealities and they come to believe they are actual reality, and then they do not complain about the slave trafficking conspiracy because they are in a state of oblivion to it.

Imagine an ancient religion that was thought up by a group of priests. They make the claim that the volcano near their village erupts because the volcano god is unpleased with their lack of sacrifices to him. They say they need to throw some people into the volcano, and then they take their property afterwards as a tribute to the church of the volcano god. Because they convince the drones that this is reality, they do not complain that people are arbitrarily abducted and thrown into the volcano, nor that the priests of the church end up acquiring their property. If not for the religion, they would view the priests as murderers and robbers, but because they believe in the volcano god religion they are oblivious to the reality of what is happening. This is exactly what has happened with the prison industrial complex, they have invented a religion to obfuscate their slave trafficking conspiracy from the drones who believe in their fraudulent propaganda.

mrz wrote:
Rotting Penis wrote:Seems to me, like for you "why?" is pretty shallow and those you call "neurotypicals" understand "why?" in a deeper sense and only refer to theological explanations when they don't have an answer.

Another example is your tirades against the "PIC", which are very shallow. You never asked yourself what lies behind it, what reason they have, what is the mechanism behind it, but only write descriptive essays or give very shallow descriptive answers like "because they believe in religion" (followed by another 2000 word descriptive tirade)


Lol yeah they understand 'why' so deeply that they can only answer it with things that aren't real, their psychosis is actually a manifestation of their deep understanding. I have an answer, the reason why you met her is because you went to the store. Out of their deeper understanding they lack an answer and so say it was because of a mystical reason, lmao.

I always answer what lies behind it, it is a slave trafficking conspiracy with the intention of consolidating power and diverting trillions of dollars to the parasite infestation. The reason why they make up religions is so that they can obfuscate their slave trafficking conspiracy from the delusional drones who have bought into their lies, the mechanism of their conspiracy is that they fabricate fraudulent studies, propaganda leaflets, mythological narratives, and mystical mechanisms of action, and then they spam these at the drones as if they are reality, the drones read about or otherwise are exposed to their pseudorealities and they come to believe they are actual reality, and then they do not complain about the slave trafficking conspiracy because they are in a state of oblivion to it.

Imagine an ancient religion that was thought up by a group of priests. They make the claim that the volcano near their village erupts because the volcano god is unpleased with their lack of sacrifices to him. They say they need to throw some people into the volcano, and then they take their property afterwards as a tribute to the church of the volcano god. Because they convince the drones that this is reality, they do not complain that people are arbitrarily abducted and thrown into the volcano, nor that the priests of the church end up acquiring their property. If not for the religion, they would view the priests as murderers and robbers, but because they believe in the volcano god religion they are oblivious to the reality of what is happening. This is exactly what has happened with the prison industrial complex, they have invented a religion to obfuscate their slave trafficking conspiracy from the drones who believe in their fraudulent propaganda.

And you see?

You gave another descriptive answer, totally unsolicited too, while again only barely sparing one sentence to the actual reason behind it, also not even trying to understand it, just giving a weasel answer and quickly proceeding to a long-ass description.

Rotting Penis wrote:
mrz wrote:
Lol yeah they understand 'why' so deeply that they can only answer it with things that aren't real, their psychosis is actually a manifestation of their deep understanding. I have an answer, the reason why you met her is because you went to the store. Out of their deeper understanding they lack an answer and so say it was because of a mystical reason, lmao.

I always answer what lies behind it, it is a slave trafficking conspiracy with the intention of consolidating power and diverting trillions of dollars to the parasite infestation. The reason why they make up religions is so that they can obfuscate their slave trafficking conspiracy from the delusional drones who have bought into their lies, the mechanism of their conspiracy is that they fabricate fraudulent studies, propaganda leaflets, mythological narratives, and mystical mechanisms of action, and then they spam these at the drones as if they are reality, the drones read about or otherwise are exposed to their pseudorealities and they come to believe they are actual reality, and then they do not complain about the slave trafficking conspiracy because they are in a state of oblivion to it.

Imagine an ancient religion that was thought up by a group of priests. They make the claim that the volcano near their village erupts because the volcano god is unpleased with their lack of sacrifices to him. They say they need to throw some people into the volcano, and then they take their property afterwards as a tribute to the church of the volcano god. Because they convince the drones that this is reality, they do not complain that people are arbitrarily abducted and thrown into the volcano, nor that the priests of the church end up acquiring their property. If not for the religion, they would view the priests as murderers and robbers, but because they believe in the volcano god religion they are oblivious to the reality of what is happening. This is exactly what has happened with the prison industrial complex, they have invented a religion to obfuscate their slave trafficking conspiracy from the drones who believe in their fraudulent propaganda.

And you see?

You gave another descriptive answer, totally unsolicited too, while again only barely sparing one sentence to the actual reason behind it, also not even trying to understand it, just giving a weasel answer and quickly proceeding to a long-ass description.


The reason behind it is summarized with a single sentence, they do this because they gain power and trillions of dollars from doing it, they are a corporation and their product is slavery and robbery, these are not products that sane people would buy, particularly considering all of the other negative things that come from them, pretty much they are in the industry of harm, they profit from harm, this is also why they are rabidly against harm reduction, so seeing as nobody wants to spend trillions of dollars on harm, nor to give people who cause harm power over them, they need to obfuscate what they actually are, and that is the reason why they make up their religions, because the people who believe in them don't have the ability to recognize what they are.

mrz wrote:The reason behind it is summarized with a single sentence

And the other things you wrote hundreds of pages about, cannot? :roll:
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Rotting Penis wrote:
mrz wrote:The reason behind it is summarized with a single sentence

And the other things you wrote hundreds of pages about, cannot? :roll: :lol:


Why don't you inform me of any gaps in your understanding so I can fill them in for you?

mrz wrote:
Rotting Penis wrote:And the other things you wrote hundreds of pages about, cannot? :roll: :lol:


Why don't you inform me of any gaps in your understanding so I can fill them in for you?

I understand them, just questioning the need to write hundreds of pages about them :lol:

But if you enjoy it...

They should have their operation thoroughly documented, it isn't like there is a single source of information that brings everything together, so I try to save people the trouble of coming to this understanding one piece of evidence at a time, by bringing it all together.

so a virus is just a strand of DNA who does nothing except causing diseases and copying itself until the cell burst,its a parasite so its similar to mrz

mrz wrote:They should have their operation thoroughly documented, it isn't like there is a single source of information that brings everything together, so I try to save people the trouble of coming to this understanding one piece of evidence at a time, by bringing it all together.


rotting penis is mad he doesnt understand your posts :lol: thats the reason why he is always up your ass :lol:
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Arguably if you want to start getting technical, it seems hard to establish the existence or nature of anything other than the experience you are currently having right now at this exact moment.

There seems to be a distinction between "physical" and "mental" reality.

But the problem is you can never know "physical" reality except through "mental" reality.

You see this with Descartes.

A more appropriate form would be "I am thinking; Thinking exists".

But to make the leap from thinking to anything else is much more difficult.

E.g. say a glass bottle. You may perceive and experience a glass bottle but that doesn't say anything about the existence of the glass bottle outside of your perception.

It's like a paradox. How can you ever know about anything outside your own mind when your only means of interacting with it is your own mind?

It has already been shown that the human mind can conceivably experience a false reality.

Just look at the brain in the vat thought experiment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_in_a_vat

Just think about when you are having a dream. Also realize that when you are having a dream you don't know that it's a dream, you think it's real. You are experiencing something in the conventional sense that "isn't real". It's just in your mind and when you wake up you realize that.

Whatever happened in your dream was just a illusion in your own mind it doesn't translate to "real life". "Real life" is meant to be the actual reality as separate from your mental reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_argument

The problem is there is nothing other than mental reality in the first place. A physical reality may exist but if there is no consciousness then the physical reality wouldn't matter because there would be no experience of it.

It's like the saying "if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree ... n_a_forest
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