What is wrong with this models jaw?

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severely retruded jaws holy shit. Never seen a face so far back relative to the forehead. It's a miracle he still looks good. It's like he's meant to be incel but fluked facial harmony. He's even got the sloping forehead, forward head posture, and overly protrusive adam's apple so many incels seem to have.
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the philtrum curvature to jaw recession ratio is OFF THE FUCKING CHARTS
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amazing the power of a short philtrum. pretty much one of the only features that can save you from inceldom
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chadD24 wrote:amazing the power of a short philtrum. pretty much one of the only features that can save you from inceldom


Legit. Imagine a human with no philtrum. A true god amongst incels.
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PostThis post by kyra was deleted by puanewb on Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:38 pm.
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kyra wrote:His head is tilted.


this is true

still, dat philtrum curvature to jaw recession ratio

His jaws are possibly in a normal relationship, his head is tilted giving the impression of jaw misplacement.

Look how far his brow ridge extends past his philtrum. Look how deep set his eyes appear. Look how far back his face generally looks compared to his forehead. Under eye area looks hollow.

This guy clearly has severe recession. Stop being maxilla-obsessed aspies who can't accept someone can luck out in overall aesthetics while having shit jaw placements.

His head is tilted, it is really that simple. He may have some amount of recession, but not to a degree you estimate from his poor head posture. Try to find FH plane or at lest estimate his true horizontal and you'll see his lower third is straight and touching nasion perpendicular = normal profile, but doesnt exclude retrusion (i.e. sephon's case, whose nasion perpendicular is behind the soft tissue profile giving the impression of backward sloping anteface, yet his maxilla is retruded, which is confirmed cephalometrically).
PostThis post by wayra was deleted by wayra on Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:26 am.

You were confused by the presence of convex forehead and the tilted position of the head. This is how his head looks after adjusting:

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Similar profile, that amogs most fragile male models:

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And of course, the obligatory Gal Gadot, which I find to be sexier than Angelina:

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Gandy is also another male with a longer than average philtrum, it looks fine though due to his chin height

JustTheWayYouAre wrote:You were confused by the presence of convex forehead and the tilted position of the head. This is how his head looks after adjusting:

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Similar profile, that amogs most fragile male models:

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And of course, the obligatory Gal Gadot, which I find to be sexier than Angelina:

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No, I wasn't fooled by the head posture.

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Look at the blue line, there's a small gap between it and the philtrum. That's very rare. In the vast majority of cases that line goes solidly through the face. And that's besides the fact that his philtrum is better than average given his recession (as evidenced by its curvature). His orbital rims are also hollow, whereas in the majority of models and celebrities, even if the maxilla is retruded, the orbitals will be decent.

His upper and lower jaws are in decent alignment with each other (normal occlusion), but both are significantly recessed to begin with.

The protrusion of the profile is measured in relation to nasion perpendicular, not to browridge perpendicular, not to mention it is not reliable measurement at all. The same goes with philtrum curvature, that means shit (vme patients usually have unusually curled philtrum compared to the flat ones that are commonly seen in orthognathic profiles).

It is very tricky to diagnose maxillary discrepancy with the use of soft tissue analysis, thus the cephalometrics. His orbital rims are better than what I see in many actors that are considered handsome.
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