There's no such thing as being "good" with women.

Share your experiences with the opposite sex. Suggest ways to improve your success. Analyze the behavior of females in real life and online. Rant and rave about females. Show the importance of looks pertaining to attracting females and other social situations. Discuss aesthetics and the science of attractiveness. Exchange health, nutrition and looksmaxing tips.

It's more a matter of being PRESELECTED by women, and in most cases it's based on your looks/race/genetic value.

Take for example two high profile slayers like Sean O'Pry and David Gandy, did you know these guys were headhunted to be male models?, they did not actually approach modelling agencies for work? And if you ask any woman why she slept with some Chad or other type of good looking dude, she will say that she had already chose him, based on his looks and race.

But getting back to the title of my thread, when you use the term being "good with women", it implies that attracting women is a "skill" that can be learned (as promoted by the PUA scammers). This is ridiculous, because how you can picking up women be a skill, when you have no control over the outcome? A true skill, like for example learning how to play the guitar is a skill, because assuming you understand the concept of music (learning how to play by ear,playing chords, notes,read and write sheet music etc), the guitar is both in tune and serviceable, the guitar will make the sound you want it to make, and this can replicated over and over again. The guitar is a neutral object, it's not going to refuse to play a C chord assuming you place your fingers in the right place. A woman on the other hand, is a human being with a mind of it's own that can work with or against you, irrespective of how well you may present yourself to her in terms of your confidence and personality.

The bottom line is, when it comes to dating,sex and relationships, women are judge, jury and executioner, therefore they are the choosers, you just have to hope that you get chosen or more accurately PRESELECTED.
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You are talking as if women evolved to open their legs to good looking men without even testing them.

This is bullshit women need to know that you are at least healthy psychological otherwise you will get rejected trust me about that,we already said that women need to know that the man is ready to fight and protect that's why women fantasize soldiers,firefighters,cops and they don't fantasize pretty feminine male models.It's just human nature
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the amount of women I see with guys who don't have their shit together (drug problems, baby dad, jail) and they still have they bitch pay for everything. I live in the "ghetto" too, could only imagine the white examples, but theses mandingo looking mofos choke, berate, and hit they hoes and they still want the D.

Ranger wrote:You are talking as if women evolved to open their legs to good looking men without even testing them.

This is bullshit women need to know that you are at least healthy psychological otherwise you will get rejected trust me about that,we already said that women need to know that the man is ready to fight and protect that's why women fantasize soldiers,firefighters,cops and they don't fantasize pretty feminine male models

Fuck off with your PUA bullshit, women don't test men they are genuinely attracted to.

Yes, women are attracted to men in uniform ie.police officers,firemen, military personnel, but that's if they are fit,tall and good looking, do you honestly believe a woman is going fantasise about a balding, middle aged cop with a beer gut?, give me a break. And a lot of women are attracted to feminine looking men, do you honestly believe that male models have a hard time getting laid?



assh0le wrote:the amount of women I see with guys who don't have their shit together (drug problems, baby dad, jail) and they still have they bitch pay for everything. I live in the "ghetto" too, could only imagine the white examples, but theses mandingo looking mofos choke, berate, and hit they hoes and they still want the D.

In addition to looks, women love their loser bad boys too, I get your point.

Agree good looking people have it better from the get go ( halo effect etc)

But are you honestly saying OP that ones mindset and the accompanying BEHAVIOUR that follows is not of huge importance? If so then this thread is pretty shit
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you need looks AND personality to slay

will this shit never sink in with you aspies ?


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Oh great the 46 year old virgin at it again, educating us how things work :lol:

Master Yoda wrote:
Ranger wrote:You are talking as if women evolved to open their legs to good looking men without even testing them.

This is bullshit women need to know that you are at least healthy psychological otherwise you will get rejected trust me about that,we already said that women need to know that the man is ready to fight and protect that's why women fantasize soldiers,firefighters,cops and they don't fantasize pretty feminine male models

Fuck off with your PUA bullshit, women don't test men they are genuinely attracted to.

Yes, women are attracted to men in uniform ie.police officers,firemen, military personnel, but that's if they are fit,tall and good looking, do you honestly believe a woman is going fantasise about a balding, middle aged cop with a beer gut?, give me a break. And a lot of women are attracted to feminine looking men, do you honestly believe that male models have a hard time getting laid?

We are analyzing what women are very attracted to and dom behavior is very attractive to them,not being very dom could be ok but being submissive is unattractive and can lead to rejection no matter how good you look from most women.You have to realize that a woman needs a man to make sure that can provide with food and protection from other animals while she is pregnant or holds babies and can't run fast

Yes pretty boys get laid they are better looking than the average guy,but they are not the ideal.

Ranger wrote:
Master Yoda wrote:Fuck off with your PUA bullshit, women don't test men they are genuinely attracted to.

Yes, women are attracted to men in uniform ie.police officers,firemen, military personnel, but that's if they are fit,tall and good looking, do you honestly believe a woman is going fantasise about a balding, middle aged cop with a beer gut?, give me a break. And a lot of women are attracted to feminine looking men, do you honestly believe that male models have a hard time getting laid?

We are analyzing what women are very attracted to and dom behavior is very attractive to them,not being very dom could be ok but being submissive is unattractive and can lead to rejection no matter how good you look from most women.You have to realize that a woman needs a man to make sure that can provide with food and protection from other animals while she is pregnant or holds babies and can't run fast

Yes pretty boys get laid they are better looking than the average guy,but they are not the ideal.


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Just LOL @thinking twink pretty "male models" would have been the ideal in an ancient enviroment with saber tooth tigers and mammuts trying to eat your ass :lol:

No, women would have chosen the best hunters, leaders, the masculine go getters. Thats why all romance novels tell the story about the strong guy, the military guy, the MC guy, the bad boy, the criminal etc and NOT the "male model".

Fucking losers here seems to not understand evolution at all :lol:

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If you are calling me autistic, I have two words for you FUCK OFF, for your information I am not autistic and nor do I have Aspergers, so get your facts straight before you talk shit.

Samsung wrote:Oh great the 46 year old virgin at it again, educating us how things work :lol:

I am not a virgin penisbreath, now go and fuck your mother you fucking retard.

Aspie JC wrote:you need looks AND personality to slay

will this shit never sink in with you aspies ?

Thank you, finally there is someone here, who gets it.
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thereturnofabulldog wrote:Agree good looking people have it better from the get go ( halo effect etc)

But are you honestly saying OP that ones mindset and the accompanying BEHAVIOUR that follows is not of huge importance? If so then this thread is pretty shit

Of course behaviour plays a part, but what does mindset have to do with attraction?

And how exactly is thread "pretty shit"?, I think I have raised a fairly intelligent thread.
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You are 100% correct on the pre-selection of face; however, you're still dead wrong in your belief. Males have to know how and when to escalate. This is a skill that comes from being socially adept throughout your life. Most women are not programmed to take the initiative when it comes to dating/sex. Acting like a passive, boring, listless aspie will have most pussies dryer than the Sahara desert.
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Aspie JC wrote:you need looks AND personality to slay

will this shit never sink in with you aspies ?


^this X infinity

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If you had social experience, you would see that there are some smooth operator types of guys who can outslay his looksmatched competitors.

First off, many guys lie and fake LTR interest to get laid (or at least keep their intentions ambiguous), and that is in itself a skill. Someone good at that manipulation could be said to be good with women. Where do you think the term player comes from?

Looks matter, but the dating market is so competitive that you still need to distinguish yourself from other average guys for the girls in your league. Obviously you don't have to do much if the girl preselects you, but anyone who has ever pursued women will know that there are times when guys shoot themselves in the foot with a girl who might have fucked them otherwise. Knowing the mistakes to avoid is practicable behavior.

Master Yoda wrote:
Samsung wrote:Oh great the 46 year old virgin at it again, educating us how things work :lol:

I am not a virgin penisbreath, now go and fuck your mother you fucking retard.


.. Autism :roll: :lol:

I would actually say there IS some aspect of being good with women and that is being GOOD at keeping the ones that are interested...interested. basically as long as you dont do stupid shit it aint that hard and of course the better looking you are the more stupid or weird that shit can be

backagain wrote:I would actually say there IS some aspect of being good with women and that is being GOOD at keeping the ones that are interested...interested. basically as long as you dont do stupid shit it aint that hard and of course the better looking you are the more stupid or weird that shit can be


Exactly.

Also, the ability to know how to break the ice (or to even have the courage to do so) is a big part of it, too. Many girls might think you're cute but will never initiate, especially if they know some other guy is likely to do so in their near future. If you're mute autist, you are in for some trouble.

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Ranger wrote:We are analyzing what women are very attracted to and dom behavior is very attractive to them,not being very dom could be ok but being submissive is unattractive and can lead to rejection no matter how good you look from most women.You have to realize that a woman needs a man to make sure that can provide with food and protection from other animals while she is pregnant or holds babies and can't run fast

Yes pretty boys get laid they are better looking than the average guy,but they are not the ideal.


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Just LOL @thinking twink pretty "male models" would have been the ideal in an ancient enviroment with saber tooth tigers and mammuts trying to eat your ass :lol:

No, women would have chosen the best hunters, leaders, the masculine go getters. Thats why all romance novels tell the story about the strong guy, the military guy, the MC guy, the bad boy, the criminal etc and NOT the "male model".

Fucking losers here seems to not understand evolution at all :lol:


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Just LOL @you deluded sluthating basementcel cunts. In Ancient times, M & S was EVERYTHING. As women couldn't have provided for themselves and survival & childrearing was paramount. This ideology even carries over to Muslimcels and their culture.

However, in the Western World (all developed countries with even some freedoms) LOOKS IS LAW as most women can sustain themselves (especially the good-lookers thanks to whiteknights). Maybe these women won't be rich and have to live in a 1 bedroom apartment but all their basic needs are taken care of...and pick and choose based foremost on looks.

Therefore you have the rise of MM DOMINATION. Check the fake MM profiles to a dose of redpill reality you dumbfucks. It wasn't just a single-type of woman who replied confirming whatever stereotype you may have but women across the board aged 20-50, black or white, etc.

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Ranger wrote: We are analyzing what women are very attracted to and dom behavior is very attractive to them,not being very dom could be ok but being submissive is unattractive and can lead to rejection no matter how good you look from most women.


Bullshit with a capital B, if you that are that good looking, women won't be rejecting you, they will be pursuing you. A close friend knows a good looking young John Travolta look like, and this guy is as shy and submissive as fuck (he works in a dead end job as a pharmacy assistant), yet women still throw themselves at this guy, He has now fathered a child with a woman he met at a party, where this woman aggressively pursued him (she actually approached him, he just sat there and did nothing), just because of his looks.

"Dominant behavior" is only attractive to women when it's coming from a good looking guy they are physically attracted to, if an ugly guy tries and pull of "dominant behavior", he will just come across as a try hard, and a creep.

Ranger wrote:You have to realize that a woman needs a man to make sure that can provide with food and protection from other animals while she is pregnant or holds babies and can't run fast


You need to buy yourself a current calendar, it's the year 2015, not the prehistoric caveman years where women need to be protected from Sabre tooth tigers etc.

And I thought modern women under the guise of "women's lib and feminism" had their own careers and money,and therefore don't need men to support to them, or is that when it's only convenient for women?

Ranger wrote:Yes pretty boys get laid they are better looking than the average guy,but they are not the ideal.


Thank you, just made my point about PRESELECTION.

justinboober wrote:You are 100% correct on the pre-selection of face; however, you're still dead wrong in your belief. Males have to know how and when to escalate. This is a skill that comes from being socially adept throughout your life. Most women are not programmed to take the initiative when it comes to dating/sex. Acting like a passive, boring, listless aspie will have most pussies dryer than the Sahara desert.

Let's say hypothetically, you got an autistic qb V an NT midget. The midget learned how to escalate from (let's say roosh even tho no real sane person would) qb has to say 10 hut they on his but. Midget better be mini me from Austin powers. :lol:

justinboober wrote:You are 100% correct on the pre-selection of face; however, you're still dead wrong in your belief. Males have to know how and when to escalate. This is a skill that comes from being socially adept throughout your life. Most women are not programmed to take the initiative when it comes to dating/sex. Acting like a passive, boring, listless aspie will have most pussies dryer than the Sahara desert.


How am I wrong in my belief regarding preselection, when women are the choosers?

I agree that a male has to escalate the interaction between himself and a woman of interest, but that's only when he gets the green light to do so, and this is called the ability to read female body language.

If a woman is giving you hostile/or negative body language (eg. dirty looks, giving you the silent treatment), then obviously it's her non verbal way of rejecting you, on the other hand if a woman is romantically/sexually interested in you, she will give you positive body language (eg. constantly smiling, touching you, moving in on your personal space).

backagain wrote:I would actually say there IS some aspect of being good with women and that is being GOOD at keeping the ones that are interested...interested. basically as long as you dont do stupid shit it aint that hard and of course the better looking you are the more stupid or weird that shit can be


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Good point, even as a lookist, I will say that looks will only get you in the front door with regards to women, actually keeping them is even harder.

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backagain wrote:I would actually say there IS some aspect of being good with women and that is being GOOD at keeping the ones that are interested...interested. basically as long as you dont do stupid shit it aint that hard and of course the better looking you are the more stupid or weird that shit can be


Exactly.

Also, the ability to know how to break the ice (or to even have the courage to do so) is a big part of it, too. Many girls might think you're cute but will never initiate, especially if they know some other guy is likely to do so in their near future. If you're mute autist, you are in for some trouble.


IF I left it for girls to initiate I would be a 50 year old virgin - not kidding either! Its the most tiring aspect of dating, the perpetual work you have to do - sometimes its worth it, sometimes its just a matter of hanging in there until they are comfortable with the idea of banging you/you banging them...To be honest when I was much younger I'd spend too much time with half-interested girls, girls who would be flirty, meet for dates but not kiss, girls who'd makeout but not fuck...I'd hang in there too long...NOW I think i have swung too far the other way and expecting them to fuck on 2nd meet and make out on the 1st. I htink I need to just swing it back a little...provided I dont get sucked ino being provider and keep pushing I dont see any harm in that

Timing is very rarely discussed here and we all know that it can make or break getting laid - push too early and they think you are a sex maniac and move on; leave it too late and you weird yourself out and auto friend-zone yourself...Timing is something PUA addresses in its "methods"

Master Yoda wrote:You need to buy yourself a current calendar, it's the year 2015, not the prehistoric caveman years where women need to be protected from Sabre tooth tigers etc.



Yeah, and for some reason, a child will be able to survive very easily even tho the girl doesnt have big tits or hips - but for SOME REASON men are STILL attracted to those attributes. I wonder why?

You fucking retard, your intelligence is of a 12 year old. My guess is u NEVER even attented to university, probably verty low education and in general just shit IQ :lol:
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