"If she's not thirsty, next her" theory for beta males

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Based on my lays vs. my many more failures, I have come to the conclusion that if a girl doesn't seem thirsty when you first chat her up. If she's not being two-way. Reciprocal. Asking you questions after you ask her questions. It's a complete fucking waste of time to continue messaging her and go on a date with her. Hell I might even take this a step further. If you're a beta male and a girl doesn't message you first, it's probably a waste of your time. Every civilian girl who puts out for me messages me first.

If she has this air of "I want you to woo me". "I want you to put in more leg-work and effort to prove your worth to me". You know, the bitch you have to wine and dine a bunch of times. The bitch you have to impress and shit. Then you're setting yourself up for a cuckold relationship at best (not necessarily cheating. But she'll have you by the balls in the relationship and never really respect you. Nor will she the nasty little obedient slut you want her to be in bed.)

Basically in order to have a satisfying relationship with a girl, she has to like your face (or like your bod if you are running butterface game and she's into bods more than faces). And she has to like your personality (you're at a major disadvantage here if you are autistic. But it's not impossible. East Asian, South-East Asian and South Asian girls seem more receptive to introverted white beta male types). If she doesn't want to fuck you or at least suck your dick after the first date, be careful, you might be on the cuckold track rather than the true love track. Or it could just be that she's afraid you'll think she's a slut and not take her seriously as girlfriend material.

If she makes you work for her affection, she will never truly love you. Even if she's "not that kind of girl", she will be eager to show affection towards you if she likes your face and your personality. And then she will fuck your brains out when it eventually leads to sex. She will be eager to make a good impression and eager for you to like her. She won't be all like "woo me" "what can you do for me?" "prove your worth to me"

I don't have a whole lot of success. But I have had a lot of failure. And I can say with certainty that every time a girl makes me work hard, I never get anywhere. Girls who like my face, message me first, aren't put off by my autism, show an eagerness to talk with me, ask me questions, etc. want my dick. Unfortunately they make up a small percentage of the female population. But at least it gives you a guideline for knowing which women are worth your time and which are a complete waste of your time. So that you can more efficiently use your time. So that you can save your time for the things that really matter in life: like shitposting, watching porn and playing video games. Because let's face it, women are boring as fuck to talk to. So you want as little talking as possible before you get to the pussy.

White incels also need to expand their horizons. You know how BBC rappers talk about "Beckys"? White men will discover the shame phenomenon if they date interracially with women of the orient.

For those not in the know, "Beckys" are white girls that love sucking black dick. Blackcels and cuckcels exaggerate the fuck out of BBC theory. But there are "Beckys" out there who exist. But they usually only want attractive black dudes with nigga swag like Tyrone and Tyrese. Or niggas with BBCs. They don't want Kent and Carlton if you know what I'm sayin'.
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PostThis post by Ignobilid was deleted by puanewb on Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:43 pm.
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i disagree with this a bit. YES if you are putting effort,time, money,emotion and its NOT leading to anything fairly soon then bail out. Some women NEED to be wined and dined at the start. Do not keep doing that though! With my last GF it took 1 casual meet with minimal expense and then 2 dates with above average spending to get laid - overall I paid something like 5 Swiss Francs per fuck BUT it was risky as I paid out a lot on those 2 dates and she could have been using me...In retrospect I realised she was keen after the 1st meet. If you have to jump through too many hoops to get laid then its best to move on

If you leave it to women to make the 1st move 99.9% of men would be virgins

From my experiences, those types of girls that chase are clingy batshit crazy ones who want to get married with you. Usually sub 5 ethniks girls.

The ones where you put in more effort, she enjoys attention and gets a lot of it and thinks she's hotshit. But still doesn't like you.

Tl; dr. Dating is a scam If your sub 8
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AforAspie wrote:From my experiences, those types of girls that chase are clingy batshit crazy ones who want to get married with you. Usually sub 5 ethniks girls.

The ones where you put in more effort, she enjoys attention and gets a lot of it and thinks she's hotshit. But still doesn't like you.

Tl; dr. Dating is a scam If your sub 8


i think its a scam IF men believe the following

1 - that their looks level can get them a girl of the same looks level - its an uneven playing field guys - expect to date down a bit

2 - that women are not visual creatures like men and are very influenced by looks - yeah they maybe less visual than men but they still place a huge amount of importance on looks

3 - that you can compensate for your lack of looks by "game"

4 - that being social will lead to better quality girls - this may make it easier to get girls but your looks determine the quality

5 - that you believe girls/women are blank canvases and they do not have their own rules or agendas in dating - i know from experience that some women are NEVER going to fuck on the first date/meet so why even attempt it?

AforAspie wrote:From my experiences, those types of girls that chase are clingy batshit crazy ones who want to get married with you. Usually sub 5 ethniks girls.
Yeah they are nuts. But god dayum I miss her lovin'. Clingy crazy girls are the best civilian cocksuckers. You can pay for a really good blowjob. But it's just simply better when she loves you. Enthusiasm can make up for technique. The mixture of pleasure and pain when she'd suck my balls. Every girlfriend should aim to please her man like that. Women have such a stick up their ass these days. Think they are hot shot. Women don't have the attitude of wanting to please her man these days.

Wow! Somebody sticky this thread. "If she's not thirsty, next her" Fucking brilliant way to put it, and bloody easy to remember. All the game a man really needs is encapsulated in that simple sentence.

Average looking guys typically encounter thirsty women only rarely, and "prove your worth" is the norm, so it's no wonder so many guys believe women's romantic emotions can be achieved or unlocked. Thats just a myth pushed by women, pua gurus, and men living in denial.
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Paradigm Shift wrote:Wow! Somebody sticky this thread. "If she's not thirsty, next her" Fucking brilliant way to put it, and bloody easy to remember. All the game a man really needs is encapsulated in that simple sentence.

Average looking guys typically encounter thirsty women only rarely, and "prove your worth" is the norm, so it's no wonder so many guys believe women's romantic emotions can be achieved or unlocked. Thats just a myth pushed by women, pua gurus, and men living in denial.


it depends if you want to be loved or you want to fuck - its much like attending the BS tradition of interviews to get a job...a necessary evil

Anything past the second date (in terms of sex withheld) is the girl screening you as boyfriend/LTR material. A makeout at the very least should happen by the second date, and the girl should seem really turned on, even if she is declining sex for the moment (just to not feel like a slut). If not, she is not that into you.

If it's the third date and you still haven't fucked her, or at least gotten naked together while making out (maybe some oral), then there's a problem. The only exception is a devout religious girl, obviously.

This is very legit. If some girl is making you jump through hoops before you get intimate, it's not worth it. If a girl wants to have sex with you, she'll make it obvious(if you understand how women work). She won't confuse you with bullshit. If you don't get sex by the 2nd or 3rd date, Just drop her because she's gonna cuck you

You could just have said it in three words.

Lower your standards.

Maldoror wrote:You could just have said it in three words.

Lower your standards.
That advice isn't enough. There have been plenty of instances where I lowered my standards quite a bit and it still didn't go anywhere.

Women don't automatically get wet for you if she's fat or sub-5. You are a Chad so you probably have noticed that a much larger percentage of sub-5 women want to fuck you. But if you're a beta male, your percentages are still extremely low when you date sub-5s.

It's not just as simple as looks hierarchy. Believe it or not, I have been shot down by women who are fatter and more facially unattractive than my ex-girlfriend of 10 months (these were obese white girls). My girlfriend really liked my eyes most of all and also my hair. Attraction to beta males is pretty much random. If you're not a Chad, there's only a select few women out there in the world who like your face and want to pass those genetics on to their offspring.

I'm not sure why but it seems like some women have better calibrated eggs than others. Some women are sexually attracted to their beta male husbands (this leads to the best and happiest marriages). Considering how intense the sex was, this seemed to be the case with my crazy ex-girlfriends. Including my Indian ex. Who was probably the craziest, most jealous girlfriend I had (but she was the kinkiest girlfriend). Most women just phone it in when they go to bed with their husband.

Mostly legit. If there's one things PUAs got right, it's paying attention to IOIs. It's very importing that the girl shows she genuinely likes you. If a girl is giving you the Chad treatment, you know you have a keeper.
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Reminder that the OP's ethnic gf wanted to use him for beta provider game. The grass is always greener. Women are women, regardless of race. This is bluepilled asian woman promotion than you see on PUA sites. Even asian girls want chads over incels.

sdf34 wrote:Reminder that the OP's ethnic gf wanted to use him for beta provider game. The grass is always greener. Women are women, regardless of race. This is bluepilled asian woman promotion than you see on PUA sites. Even asian girls want chads over incels.
If you're a beta male, the best that you can really do is beta provider game.
So why not make the best with the hand you were dealt and go for girls who are eager for you to be their boyfriend (even if they are motivated by wanting you to "take care of her") rather than go for girls who act like they are doing you a favour by going out on a date with you?

My ex-girlfriend was broke as fuck. All I bought her was a hot chocolate on our first date. And we had sex. We had straight-up sex on our 2nd and 3rd "date". After the 3rd date, she gave me the L word and I said the L word back. This is when we were officially a serious couple. Though on the 2nd date she was leaving hickies on me so that other girls wouldn't touch me. That sounds pretty official to me. She also held hands with me after we had sex on the first date when she was on the phone with her mother. So that might have been when we were official. At any rate, she didn't make me jump through ridiculous hoops to be her boyfriend. 4th date I bought her a hot chocolate when I drove her home after sex. 5th date she ordered pizza. Then I took her out afterwards. This is when she started to really expect me to beta provide for her. She pressured me to take her out on dates. And later she wanted me to help her with finding a nice apartment (presumably because I have a car and she doesn't) and helping her move. She wanted for us to be like a real couple. Instead of just meeting at her place, having sex and watching Netflix. I think her girlfriend's boyfriends were spoiling them with gifts during Christmas and she was jealous that I wasn't spoiling her as well. We got into a big fight on Christmas.

Meanwhile the typical girl makes you work like a fucking dog before she even fucks you (with a condom) or sucks your dick. I was getting all kinds of sex at minimal expense before my girlfriend was starting to become demanding.
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PostThis post by Ignobilid was deleted by puanewb on Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:43 pm.
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this theory is stupid as fuck. what kind of girl is going to be thirsty for a sub5 male? you said you were an autistic pretty boy alienfranco. your theory might work in that case but for legit subhumans it wont.

That is a load of bullshit, if a woman stays with an alpha, it's because of his alpha qualities, not to do with his providing. That's why even those beta providers end up divorced, like ER's mom who dumped his dad.

If you arent meeting any thirsty girls, you're a sub 5 and need to looksmax.

incel scum wrote:this theory is stupid as fuck. what kind of girl is going to be thirsty for a sub5 male? you said you were an autistic pretty boy alienfranco. your theory might work in that case but for legit subhumans it wont.
by sluthate standards, I am a sub5 male. :lol: I don't put up my pics on here because most of you idiots would tell me that I need to hit 10% body fat to be a 5 as a manlet.

The red pill though is that most of the people on this forum are absolutely fucking delusional about looks theory.

Face matters a good deal more than physique. Face + physique is ideal obviously. No question. Though my facial fat is a detriment. I looked at old photos of me with 16% body fat and my face was a lot better than it is now at 20%+ body fat.

But even at 20+% body fat, my face still gets me laid sometimes.Don't underestimate the power of face.

It's fucking hilarious how I see gymcels get down to like 10-12% body fat or else. They put in all of this work at the gym or their home-gym. And yet remain virgins. All because they have the wrong facial genetics or maybe the wrong attitude or the wrong personality (this is rich coming from an autist, I know. But I think being self-aware of your own autism helps).

I can't guarantee that my advice works for all beta males. But if you want to believe sluthate theory, I'm a short, fat, subhuman anyway right? :lol:

alienfranco wrote:
For those not in the know, "Beckys" are white girls that love sucking black dick. Blackcels and cuckcels exaggerate the fuck out of BBC theory. But there are "Beckys" out there who exist. But they usually only want attractive black dudes with nigga swag like Tyrone and Tyrese. Or niggas with BBCs. They don't want Kent and Carlton if you know what I'm sayin'.



"Beckys" are not white girls who love black mens dick.

a "Becky" is a slang term for a white girl. the term is most usually used in a slightly derogatory fashion by black women towards white women.
eg: "Jamal isn't bothering with me anymore, he keeps tryin to hollar at that Becky accross the road"

[a white girl does not need to be a BBC lover to be refered to as a becky]
mrz wrote:Those who argue against me are invariably religiously delusional with propaganda, or otherwise they are simply sociopaths, those are the only two possible reasons that anyone would argue against me.

OSTB wrote:"Beckys" are not white girls who love black mens dick.

a "Becky" is a slang term for a white girl. the term is most usually used in a slightly derogatory fashion by black women towards white women.
eg: "Jamal isn't bothering with me anymore, he keeps tryin to hollar at that Becky accross the road"

[a white girl does not need to be a BBC lover to be refered to as a becky]
Why does African-American rapper Plies refer to "getting Becky" as getting head? If not to imply that white girls (who are into BBC) love sucking black dick?




Paradigm Shift wrote:If you arent meeting any thirsty girls, you're a sub 5 and need to looksmax.
That's probably legit. I don't think I'm a sub-5. I am overweight, 20+% body fat and girls have been thirsty for me. I think it's fair to say that women like my face. And the tragedy in all this is that my face was even better when I was like 16% body fat. Imagine if I was 12% body fat? Imagine if I had six-pack abs?

When you are autistic, your ceiling isn't very high though. You've looksmaxed and got laid so you know this. The type of girl who goes for the handsome guy with the six-pack is unlikely to be accepting of my autism and introversion. These type of things go hand-in-hand. The type of girl who is likely to tolerate autism and introversion is likely to tolerate a beer belly. This is why I don't see how looksmaxing will provide me with too much additional bed. My ex-girlfriend would be really turned on in bed if I got a six-pack and some muscles. But is that going to motivate her to hit the gym herself and lose weight? Probably not. :lol: My ex was already jealous as fuck of me. Accusing me of cheating on her. You know how jealous of me she'd be if I was 12% body fat?

this is really just the "low hanging fruit" method from Book Of Pook - grab the easy girls

bignosebiglipethnik wrote:This is very legit. If some girl is making you jump through hoops before you get intimate, it's not worth it. If a girl wants to have sex with you, she'll make it obvious(if you understand how women work). She won't confuse you with bullshit. If you don't get sex by the 2nd or 3rd date, Just drop her because she's gonna cuck you


i think each man has to thoroughly think about how many hoops and the hassle he is willing to endure to get the vag - IME super-easy sex has NEVER lasted and the bitches have ALWAYS had a hidden agenda - there's no such thing as free poon if you are not good looking - its always with conditions

Eh nice in theory but rarely works. I remeber one time when speaking to couple of girls i noticed i was the one that always initiate. So i said to myself i would wait for them to message me.
After about 2 months i got a message from one of them(out of 5) where she asked me for a favour. Also acted like nothing happened lol.
On that day i learned that they honestly didnt care about me. and i also took a long hard look around me and realized they did care about high LMS males and were always eager to talk to them.
Moral of the story? Dont bother if sub6 LMS not worth it.
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alienfranco wrote: Why does African-American rapper Plies refer to "getting Becky" as getting head? If not to imply that white girls (who are into BBC) love sucking black dick?







after a while, the term also started to turn into a slang word for getting fellito.
I'm not entirely sure how exactly that came about, but my original definition is legit.

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