LMS theory uncovered

Share your experiences with the opposite sex. Suggest ways to improve your success. Analyze the behavior of females in real life and online. Rant and rave about females. Show the importance of looks pertaining to attracting females and other social situations. Discuss aesthetics and the science of attractiveness. Exchange health, nutrition and looksmaxing tips.

Alright, now continuing on the previous thread

Rate Joseph Gordon-Levitt

If a poster who looked like this,


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created an account here and asked to be rated, he would get comments like:

"3.5/10 wood not bang"
"It's over, visit Gandy"
"Go ER, you're dead"
"Slayer of whales and fetuses"
"Strong virgin"



This experiment goes to show three very important conclusions that should change the paradigm of a male rating.

1) FOR A MALE LMS does not mean LLLMS. Your rating is 0.333(L+M+S). While 99% of the discussions are for L, which brings me to my next point.

2) L rating of a MALE is not just the face. The looks rating comprises the following: ΣPiXi/ΣPi, X = {Fi,Mi,Bi,Ri,Hi,FRi,Si,Ai,HLi}

- Preference (P)
- Face (F)
- Muscle (M)
- Bodyfat (B)
- Race (R)
- Height (H)
- Frame (FR)
- Symmetry (S)
- Age (A)
- Health (HL)

So not only do you obsess over a third of your SMV, you also obsess over ONE part of it.

Which brings me to my THIRD and FINAL point.

3) Your LMS value for sexual selection is not easily interpreted. It is FAR easier for women to check other women's attraction towards you, since that saves her resources like time and effort. Ever notice that women like you more when other beautiful women are around you? In the same picture? Talking to you? These are ancillaries my friend. Now remember that key word, ANCILLARY. Because this is what it all comes down to in the end. LMS=SMV=A, if she is convinced that you're good looking, high status, and financially independent, then you win. No eyebrows, no facial height, no chin projection, no jaw line, no extra inches, it's done. So what are the big ancillaries to LMS and ultimately your SMV? Probably the most important is CONFIDENCE, since your past experiences have a direct effect on your neurotransmitter balance and receptivity, it is a good indication of your PAST SUCCESS. But how do you break down confidence? Demeanor, body language, assertiveness, grandeur, pride, and freedom. Your looks, status, and money have a direct effect on the difficult to forge ancillaries. Your looks, money and status are confirmed by your ancillaries. Your ancillaries alone make up your SMV, but your LMS helps you acquire them. Mind revisiting the JGL thread? After you've done reading this post, one more time, simply observe. Women need emotional stimulation, if your ancillaries trick her into thinking that your highly valuable, then she sees you as the sexiest man alive. Make no mistake, THIS is what women dream about.





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Now that I'm done breaking down LMS into the non-autistic version, you should be asking me, so what do I do with all this new information?

Well, to be honest, very little. Besides the obvious looksmaxing that some of you waste excessive time doing, it would best to focus on the ancillaries themselves. If you weren't born and raised acquiring them naturally through your normal life, then you have a monumental, but not impossible task, to reflect otherwise for a short time when necessary. Some people can fake confidence easily, and see their success jump greatly. Others find it more difficult without real experience for heightened self esteem. For these people (yes, you autistic incel), your most realistic option for improving your SMV is Dark Triad game. I do not encourage you to go down that path, but if mastered properly, it's the shortcut that you desire. Direct more of your resources there, instead of polishing up a face that won't improve much.

Have a nice day.
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Lol dude a wall of text to actually fail to find out what I did.

It's about general phenotype and quality of genes. Your brain DETECTS the quality of genes, looking at someone's features, face. You need just one third to tell if the person is genetically superior/mediocre/inferior. It's so fucking blatant.

So it's VERY MUCH about coloring, complexion, quality of features and how they look.
Second is bonestructure.

Rest is not that important.

When we speak about face, we are pretty much also indirectly including most of the stuff you mentioned like race, bodyfat, health and symmetry... I wouldn't even seperate them into different categories

Face reflects ALL of that. It's a beacon of your immunocompetence and health
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And for the latter part, legit. Percieved S and social value is actually what matters most... More than face. Some people can acquire/fake high S, some people can't.

Most people on this website probably won't have high social value or have the social fluency to manipulate people into believing so by emulating high extraversion and confidence. For a lot of people, it'd probably even easier to improvssL than to become high status

Cool Sensei wrote:Lol dude a wall of text to actually fail to find out what I did.

It's about general phenotype and quality of genes. Your brain DETECTS the quality of genes, looking at someone's features, face. You need just one third to tell if the person is genetically superior/mediocre/inferior. It's so fucking blatant.

So it's VERY MUCH about coloring, complexion, quality of features and how they look.
Second is bonestructure.

Rest is not that important.


You haven't read a word I said, have you?



Pip-Boy 3000 wrote:
Cool Sensei wrote:Lol dude a wall of text to actually fail to find out what I did.

It's about general phenotype and quality of genes. Your brain DETECTS the quality of genes, looking at someone's features, face. You need just one third to tell if the person is genetically superior/mediocre/inferior. It's so fucking blatant.

So it's VERY MUCH about coloring, complexion, quality of features and how they look.
Second is bonestructure.

Rest is not that important.


You haven't read a word I said, have you?


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cats wrote:The breakdown is actually like this (according to studies):

Looks = 50%

Money = 15%

Status = 35%


LMS is a spectrum with complex synergies, and it's common to double count ancillaries in one or the other.

Hence why I like to say that they are all equally important.
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All this bullshit "knowledge" yet you're still HERE. Go fuck yourself cunt. It's not our fault you're ugly and can't get shit.

All these fucking coping mechanisms, hamster rationalizations, delusions, and alts talking to each other is fucking PATHETIC. This place is turning into fucking RSD. Please go kill yourselves. Fucking faggots.
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This is fucking unbelievable.

I waste my time to try and help fucking aspies and they are still arguing whether money or looks are more important.

NO HOPE.
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Strong autism ITT. Money doesn't create sexual, primal, biological attraction, how could it? Do girls get wet when they see colored little pieces of paper or a number on a screen? Our cavemen ancestors did not know what money was while they were evolving their brains. Girls who are fucking guys in exchange for money/social perks are doing it asexually in the same way that you would if you were being paid $500 to fuck a -4/10 uggo girl. If all girls were completely materially provided for and financially stable, they would not whore themselves out to Johns or beta providers anymore because they would no longer need to. And indeed, in our feminized society today we see that same trend, L in males is more important than in developing countries because females are not forced to lower their L standards in order to survive and get resources for their spawn.

Status wise, obviously some element of status like being able to offer her exclusive perks is just analogous to asexual prostitution as described above. The other elements like novelty/validation (I fucked the guy on TV! OMG OMG I must be so hot) and confidence/DOM/fun personality are good too as obviously girls would rather have their hot guy have these traits, all else being equal, but they are not sufficient by themselves to produce raw attraction that looks do.

Most of your percieved personality, social status, financial situation, etc. is (subconsciously) based on your overall appearance (including clothes, etc.) anyway because your image activates certain stereotypes and social/biological conditioned behavioral programs in the girl's mind. LOOKS is LIFE.
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just lol buddy boyo wrote:Strong autism ITT. Money doesn't create sexual, primal, biological attraction, how could it? Do girls get wet when they see colored little pieces of paper or a number on a screen? Our cavemen ancestors did not know what money was while they were evolving their brains. Girls who are fucking guys in exchange for money/social perks are doing it asexually in the same way that you would if you were being paid $500 to fuck a -4/10 uggo girl. If all girls were completely materially provided for and financially stable, they would not whore themselves out to Johns or beta providers anymore because they would no longer need to. And indeed, in our feminized society today we see that same trend, L in males is more important than in developing countries because females are not forced to lower their L standards in order to survive and get resources for their spawn.

Status wise, obviously some element of status like being able to offer her exclusive perks is just analogous to asexual prostitution as described above. The other elements like novelty/validation (I fucked the guy on TV! OMG OMG I must be so hot) and confidence/DOM/fun personality are good too as obviously girls would rather have their hot guy have these traits, all else being equal, but they are not sufficient by themselves to produce raw attraction that looks do.

Most of your percieved personality, social status, financial situation, etc. is (subconsciously) based on your overall appearance (including clothes, etc.) anyway because your image activates certain stereotypes and social/biological conditioned behavioral programs in the girl's mind. LOOKS is LIFE.


Looks law is DESTROYED.

Even dominance trumps looks. It's all ancillaries my friend. You either have it, or you fake it long enough to get your dick wet.

Get your fucking autistic shit out of here, we are not women, a true male's value is about what you bring to the table, this makes them WET. Try being a visually aesthetic guy with no job and aspergers, you ain't gonna last a minute.

LOL

autism overload.

coming up with a one page formula to calculate attraction.

just LOL
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Pip boy you are making the mistake of thinking that women only have sex with guys that they are biologically attracted to. They have sex to get material and social goods because it is the most effective, efficient, and in many cases ONLY way for them to get what they want/need because they are not smart/motivated enough to get it on their own in other ways. Looks + behaving masculine/DOM(only if also good looking) = pure biological attraction (desire to be impregnated by elite genetics). Money + social perks = economic asexual transaction of pussy for goods.

You wouldn't want to fuck a -4/10 girl even if she was acting super feminine and submissive. You would want to fuck a 7+ girl, hell even a 6+ regardless of if she was feminine and submissive but probably even more if she was.
If you had abundant money and social privilege, you would not give a shit how rich or well connected the girl was.
If you were poor AF or socially out of the loop, you would be willing to fuck a -4 for a lot of $ or access to a circle or something but that doesn't mean you would be primally attracted to her, it's just an economic transaction. Same applies to girls, they just usually have lower M than males and so they are willing to prostitute for pay to betas out of necessity, not because they are attracted to them biologically.

This means my new, adjusted rating is (6+0+0)/30=2. It is game over, buddies.
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cats wrote:Money isn't even close to looks.

The peasant who you are debating with, is starting to getting annoying he strongly opposes to LMS theory and yet he can't even get a remotely attractive woman or any woman at all.
I suspect he never approached females in his life. It's a waste of time debating with dogmatic people of this kind.
LMS (all 3) matters more than anything else to women whether for a ONS or relationship. Since females have lots of options if you only possess 1 out of LMS she'll go to a man who has all 3 :looks money and status.
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Young Leo Forever wrote:This means my new, adjusted rating is (6+0+0)/30=2. It is game over, buddies.


No, no, no, NO.

ONLY if you are looking for LTR that LMS gets weight because then you'll play the PROVIDER ROLE.
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