Why PUA is bullshit.

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Cliff's Version:

- Many PUA theories are based on a fundamental fallacy and a skewed perspective.

- Many PUA tactics are creepy.

- They teach "all women" are flakey, testy, and deceptive, which is only a half-truth. They're "like that" to guys they're merely willing to settle for.

- If you're average looking or below, cold approaching is too much work for too little reward.

- Do looks matter to women? Yes!

- Most women who date plain or ugly guys are either settling or gold/status digging. This is deceptive and misleading behavior, so it should be no suprise that those women act accordingly in other ways. Women learn from an early age how to pass this off as "attraction", and most guys can't tell the difference.

- You can't negotiate attraction. What is often sold as "game" is an attempt to do this in a sneaky, underhanded way. If you're trying to "trigger" attraction, you're trying to NEGOTIATE attraction!


Full Version:

PUA gets a lot of things half-right. The problem is they're observing and interpreting female behavior from the perspective of men who've never been genuinely desired in a sexual way, and are blissfully unaware of the lookist double standard going on right under their noses. They interpret everything they see through a distorted "looks don't matter" lens. The PUA "gurus" perpetuate the myth that "women are less visual" because otherwise they wouldn't stay in business.

Women are only "less visual" in a very opportunistc and predatory way. They're willing to prostitute themselves to less-attractive men in order to satisfy unmet non-sexual needs, and they're trained from an early age how to pass this off as genuine affection. That's why so many men mistake transactional intentions for "attraction". It's also why women often behave so neurotic and testy in relationships. Wealth and social status are ARTIFICIAL INFLATORS of a man's true sexual value. Any ugly man can buy the "privilege" of playing above his league, but her "love" for him will be very pragmatic and fake, and the sex will eventually be rationed once she feels secure in the relationship.

Guys often attribute the changes in their girlfriends' behavior to "acting beta", when his behavior isn't always the real cause. In many cases, her motivations for being with him were more transactional than emotional/sexual. Once she feels she has him locked down, she's no longer afraid to show her true feelings. THAT's why playing dread game "works" so well. It doesn't "trigger attraction". It simply forces that deceitful settling whore to provide what she advertized if she wants to stay in the relationship!

For most women, love and romantic emotions are for good looking guys only. If she finds you only average looking, she'll either fit you into the "friend", "beta provider/LTR" or "creep" category, not someone she has genuine feelings for. Any ugly shmuck can "attract" a settling whore with enough wealth or status, but that's not love. It's glorified prostitution. You can negotiate a price for sex or companionship, but you can't negotiate attraction.

Also, if you're only average looking, cold approaching is too much work for too little reward. Average looking PUAs are trying to play a numbers game that's heavily rigged against them, and using cold approaching tactics without receiving clear approach invitations or IOIs is time consuming and emotionally draining. Many PUAs actually spend the same amount of time at this as a full-time job. That's excessive! If you're spending 30+ hours a week approaching women and not getting laid much, something is seriously wrong. Either you're creeping them out, or you're too ugly/fat/short/old/disabled for the kind of women you want. That's not "limiting beliefs". That's reality. Women are NOT difficult to meet if you have the looks to attract them or the wealth/status to "attract" a glorified prostitute.

Another important point: A large portion of PUA tactics are actually quite creepy, and that's a major factor in why PUA's have such a poor sucess rate. "Plowing through a set" is not only disrespectful, but makes you look DESPERATE, not "confident". Also, unless you're good looking AND have very high social intuition, approaching a female stranger in public is a terrible idea. Women are VERY uncomfortable being approached by men they didn't invite to approach. It sends an immediately creep vibe, which is often hard to recover from. Only approach women who are sending you clear approach invitations or IOIs. If you never get those kinds of signals from women, you're wasting your time using cold approach tactics.

Lastly, the PUA/Redpill community assumes all women act like the ones they consistantly meet. They teach that women are naturally gold/status diggers, flakey, testy and manipulative bitches. No, that's just how women treat guys they're not physically attracted to. If there's any interest from her, it's of the settling kind, which comes with a lot of strings, game playing and emotional baggage attached. Settling is deceitful and predatory behavior, so OF COURSE those women act that way! There are good, honest women out there, but they will NOT settle for plain looking guys.

Good looking rich guys get cucked and mistreated, too, but they are outliers. If you're average looking, your chances of getting played are around 90%. If you're a "9" in looks, your chances are around 20%. The chances are still there, but you're doing yourself no favors if you think women don't treat good looking guys far more respectfully. "AWALT" is bullshit, period. Most guys in the manosphere just don't have the looks/height to trigger genuine attraction, so gold/status diggers or women with emotional baggage are their only options. "Unicorns" are real. They just don't date average looking guys!
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Sums it up nicely
Well done.
"On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

Rejoice Incels, Lachesism is legit!

"A fiery dragon will cross the sky / Six times before the earth shall die / Mankind will tremble and frightened be / For the six heralds in this prophecy...
For seven days and seven nights / Man will watch this awesome sight / The tides will rise beyond their ken / To bite away the shores and then / The mountains will begin to roar / And earthquakes split the plain to shore...
The dragon’s tail is but a sign / For mankind’s fall and man’s decline / And before this prophecy is done / I shall be burned at the stake, at One / My body singed and my soul set free / You think I utter blasphemy? / You’re wrong! These things have come to me / THIS PROPHECY WILL COME TO BE!"

It's the same way we want to pursue women. If an unattractive one courts us, it's a facsimile of how women would think of us.

No one primarily cares about confidence. No one primarily cares about personality. When you think of someone you want to value, it's looks, money, status, competence, achievement, etc.


“I could show fight on natural selection having done and doing more for the progress of civilization than you seem inclined to admit. Remember what risk the nations of Europe ran, not so many centuries ago of being overwhelmed by the Turks, and how ridiculous such an idea now is! The more civilised so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world.”
― Charles Darwin

"A prevention of the faculty and opportunity to procreate on the part of the physically degenerate and mentally sick, over the period of only six hundred years, would not only free humanity from an immeasurable misfortune, but would lead to a recovery which today seems scarcely conceivable."
― Adolf Hitler

"The way of nature has always been to slay the hindmost, and there is still no other way, unless we can prevent those who would become the hindmost being born. It is in the sterilization of failures, and not in the selection of successes for breeding, that the possibility of an improvement of the human stock lies."
― H. G. Wells

"It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind....Three generations of imbeciles are enough."
― U.S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., Buck v. Bell, 1927

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