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Most guys who get "friend-zoned" attribute their situation to a lack of confidence and social skills, yet many of these guys are actually more socially adept than either the PUA community or mainstream dating advice gives them credit for. If they were giving off the "creep" vibe, those girls would not even be friends with them in the first place. Also, if you have enough social intuition and confidence to maintain a genuine, REAL friendship with a woman, then a lack of these things is _NOT_ what is holding you back in the game of love!!

The most common reason for the "friendzone" is what I like to call the "looks wall". He clearly has at least decent social skills if he has genuine, REAL female friends. His social skills aren't the problem. She likes hanging out with him, but she doesn't find him good looking enough to qualify for either a sexual or romantic relationship with her, so she puts up a wall between those boundaries.

If you are good looking, a sizeable chunk of your female friends WILL end up being "with benefits" someday ;). They have their needs, and they aren't these strange, esoteric, absurdly complex sexual oddities that many guys assume them to be. If you had a female friend who was also a hottie, would YOU fuck her if the chance presented itself? Guess what? So would SHE if the genders were flipped! It's quite common for women to fuck one of their male friends while she is between relationships.

I cringe when the PUA community brings up the "friendzone". Just because a guy is only friends with a girl does NOT mean he isn't fucking her! In most cases, a guy who was "friendzoned" wasn't really "friendzoned" at all, he just hit the looks wall. What many guys out there don't understand is this: If you can make genuine, lasting friendships with women, you ALREADY HAVE the social confidence and people skills required for MORE than friendship with women! If a girl "puts you in the friendzone", but really wants to be friends - not just the typical "LJBF" excuse -, then she just wasn't physically attracted to you. It's your looks, not your "beta behavior" or lack of game.

Remember this:

Women will BEFRIEND a confident, socially adept man.
They might MARRY a wealthy man.
They will RESPECT a dominant man or a man with game.
They will DESIRE a good looking man.
They will DENY that sexual attraction is mainly looks.

The platonic friend, the potential husband, and the lover. Those are the 3 main categories a woman puts you in. The holy grail among women is a man who fits all 3, but for long term relationships, most have to settle for a man they don't really desire - and THAT's why so many marriages end in divource!

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Paradigm Shift wrote:Most guys who get "friend-zoned" attribute their situation to a lack of confidence and social skills, yet many of these guys are actually more socially adept than either the PUA community or mainstream dating advice gives them credit for. If they were giving off the "creep" vibe, those girls would not even be friends with them in the first place. Also, if you have enough social intuition and confidence to maintain a genuine, REAL friendship with a woman, then a lack of these things is _NOT_ what is holding you back in the game of love!!

The most common reason for the "friendzone" is what I like to call the "looks wall". He clearly has at least decent social skills if he has genuine, REAL female friends. His social skills aren't the problem. She likes hanging out with him, but she doesn't find him good looking enough to qualify for either a sexual or romantic relationship with her, so she puts up a wall between those boundaries.

If you are good looking, a sizeable chunk of your female friends WILL end up being "with benefits" someday ;). They have their needs, and they aren't these strange, esoteric, absurdly complex sexual oddities that many guys assume them to be. If you had a female friend who was also a hottie, would YOU fuck her if the chance presented itself? Guess what? So would SHE if the genders were flipped! It's quite common for women to fuck one of their male friends while she is between relationships.

I cringe when the PUA community brings up the "friendzone". Just because a guy is only friends with a girl does NOT mean he isn't fucking her! In most cases, a guy who was "friendzoned" wasn't really "friendzoned" at all, he just hit the looks wall. What many guys out there don't understand is this: If you can make genuine, lasting friendships with women, you ALREADY HAVE the social confidence and people skills required for MORE than friendship with women! If a girl "puts you in the friendzone", but really wants to be friends - not just the typical "LJBF" excuse -, then she just wasn't physically attracted to you. It's your looks, not your "beta behavior" or lack of game.

Remember this:

Women will BEFRIEND a confident, socially adept man.
They might MARRY a wealthy man.
They will RESPECT a dominant man or a man with game.
They will DESIRE a good looking man.
They will DENY that sexual attraction is mainly looks.

The platonic friend, the potential husband, and the lover. Those are the 3 main categories a woman puts you in. The holy grail among women is a man who fits all 3, but for long term relationships, most have to settle for a man they don't really desire - and THAT's why so many marriages end in divource!

(For more, please check out the blog in my sig below)


Seems legit. I have never had the experience of being friendzoned and hearing men bitch about it just seems weird too me, women right me off as a creepy nerd almost instantaneously. I think the closest I ever came to being friendzoned was in a chemistry class when I had to mix chemicals and record the experiment with two bitches. They just did the experiment and didn't involve me at all, treating me like a creep the whole time. I barely had any results written down because they wouldn't let me get near enough to them to see what chemicals they were mixing. So I just sat there at my desk afterwards balancing the equations of about 3 out of 10 experiments, and the bitches see me doing work and ask me to give them my homework so they can look at it. I told them to fuck off, and the female teacher heard me and sent me to the principal's office. Literally the closest I have ever come to a female friend, I just have to laugh at friendzoned white knights. At least women treat them like humans.
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one aspect of PUA I detest is that it assumes that ANY form or interest from a girl is sexual interest

imho there are 3 types of interest which can overlap much like a Venn diagram - PUA assumes any low level interest can lead to sexual interest and that its some linear thing

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you have INTELLECTUAL interest - you can enjoy debating and discussing stuff

EMOTIONAL interest - the person is simply enjoyable to be around, you just like their way

PHYSICAL interest - the person is physically attractive to you

people are usually looking for someone who can hit all 3 but invariably have to settle on at least 1 aspect

ironically there is a PUA routine about this...



For example, what zone is it called when OmegaKV approaches a girl then she gets disgusted by his HBO

dsar9012 wrote:
Seems legit. I have never had the experience of being friendzoned and hearing men bitch about it just seems weird too me, women right me off as a creepy nerd almost instantaneously. I think the closest I ever came to being friendzoned was in a chemistry class when I had to mix chemicals and record the experiment with two bitches. They just did the experiment and didn't involve me at all, treating me like a creep the whole time. I barely had any results written down because they wouldn't let me get near enough to them to see what chemicals they were mixing. So I just sat there at my desk afterwards balancing the equations of about 3 out of 10 experiments, and the bitches see me doing work and ask me to give them my homework so they can look at it. I told them to fuck off, and the female teacher heard me and sent me to the principal's office. Literally the closest I have ever come to a female friend, I just have to laugh at friendzoned white knights. At least women treat them like humans.


lol must be ugly ? or give off that strong creep vibe

what about being in the friendzone because you are being used as a beta emotional tampon, and as soon as you refuse to play your emotional tampon role any longer, you are discarded ?



What are you people, phucked in the head?

A woman telling you "let's just be friends" doesn't mean "let's just be friends" - she means "I don't wanna have anything to do with you".

Girls bite each other throath if they have the chance. The competition between them is HUGE. Remember that there are 50% girls out there, 3% males and 47% decoration. All girls compete for these 3% males. They can ONLY have a meaningful and honest conversation with the 47% males that are non-threatening to the other females. Hence enter the friendzone...

Paradigm Shift wrote:Most guys who get "friend-zoned" attribute their situation to a lack of confidence and social skills, yet many of these guys are actually more socially adept than either the PUA community or mainstream dating advice gives them credit for. If they were giving off the "creep" vibe, those girls would not even be friends with them in the first place. Also, if you have enough social intuition and confidence to maintain a genuine, REAL friendship with a woman, then a lack of these things is _NOT_ what is holding you back in the game of love!!

The most common reason for the "friendzone" is what I like to call the "looks wall". He clearly has at least decent social skills if he has genuine, REAL female friends. His social skills aren't the problem. She likes hanging out with him, but she doesn't find him good looking enough to qualify for either a sexual or romantic relationship with her, so she puts up a wall between those boundaries.

If you are good looking, a sizeable chunk of your female friends WILL end up being "with benefits" someday ;). They have their needs, and they aren't these strange, esoteric, absurdly complex sexual oddities that many guys assume them to be. If you had a female friend who was also a hottie, would YOU fuck her if the chance presented itself? Guess what? So would SHE if the genders were flipped! It's quite common for women to fuck one of their male friends while she is between relationships.

I cringe when the PUA community brings up the "friendzone". Just because a guy is only friends with a girl does NOT mean he isn't fucking her! In most cases, a guy who was "friendzoned" wasn't really "friendzoned" at all, he just hit the looks wall. What many guys out there don't understand is this: If you can make genuine, lasting friendships with women, you ALREADY HAVE the social confidence and people skills required for MORE than friendship with women! If a girl "puts you in the friendzone", but really wants to be friends - not just the typical "LJBF" excuse -, then she just wasn't physically attracted to you. It's your looks, not your "beta behavior" or lack of game.

Remember this:

Women will BEFRIEND a confident, socially adept man.
They might MARRY a wealthy man.
They will RESPECT a dominant man or a man with game.
They will DESIRE a good looking man.
They will DENY that sexual attraction is mainly looks.

The platonic friend, the potential husband, and the lover. Those are the 3 main categories a woman puts you in. The holy grail among women is a man who fits all 3, but for long term relationships, most have to settle for a man they don't really desire - and THAT's why so many marriages end in divource!

(For more, please check out the blog in my sig below)


Good post, and that's a good summation on the dreaded "friendzone" a lot of men get placed in(I know have).There seems to be some terrible disinformation that's put out there as to why women friendzone men and some of it is absolutely ridiculous.

In a nutshell, friendzoning is simply a polite way for a woman to reject you without hurting your feelings too much. It's basically a woman saying to you, "I like you as someone to hang out with, but not fuck", women definitely don't friendzone the Chads and slayers of this world.
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stabyouinthepeezda wrote:What are you people, phucked in the head?

A woman telling you "let's just be friends" doesn't mean "let's just be friends" - she means "I don't wanna have anything to do with you".

+1
Legit.

stabyouinthepeezda wrote:What are you people, phucked in the head?

A woman telling you "let's just be friends" doesn't mean "let's just be friends" - she means "I don't wanna have anything to do with you".


Its the polite code for - you are a nice pleasant man but you dont do enough for me physically I have lots of options so bye

exactly how often has a LJBF response actually lead to a friendship?....IME NONE

backagain wrote:
stabyouinthepeezda wrote:What are you people, phucked in the head?

A woman telling you "let's just be friends" doesn't mean "let's just be friends" - she means "I don't wanna have anything to do with you".


Its the polite code for - you are a nice pleasant man but you dont do enough for me physically I have lots of options so bye

exactly how often has a LJBF response actually lead to a friendship?....IME NONE

+1

Incorrect, you have to be good looking to know this though
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A woman telling you "let's just be friends" doesn't mean "let's just be friends" - she means "I don't wanna have anything to do with you, but I don't want you to go ER either. So I'm gonna hope that you get suckered into my obligatory friendliness so that the blood isn't on my hands if you were to go ER."


Altered a bit for accuracy.

I've often wondered what chicks think of a boy they friendzoned who turned out to go ER after. Do they even feel guilty? I know a lot of chicks aren't capable of guilt, but I seriously don't think they can not feel guilty after being partially responsible for people who get killed/hurt from someone who goes ER who they shot down.
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The only females in my life other than family and that I 'hang around' with are women in their forties and fifties who I know in a professional capacity i.e. therapists, mental health workers, addiction workers. I'm pretty sure most of them think I am a socially inept little boy.

I haven't spoken to a woman in a social setting other than the above for years.

stabyouinthepeezda wrote:What are you people, phucked in the head?

A woman telling you "let's just be friends" doesn't mean "let's just be friends" - she means "I don't wanna have anything to do with you".


Yep. That does happen a lot. There are cases where she genuinely does like you as a friend and still wants to hang out, though.

The only women worth your consideration are the ones whose interest in you is primarily sexual.
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A so-called "redpilled" woman wrote this and yet she cannot even get it 100% straight. Looks are everything. Looks make you who you are. Ted Bundy a good looking guy was able to murder dozens of women just based on his LOOKS. And money and status as well. But if you don't look the part no one will BUY IT even when presented with evidence.

But this is obvious to anyone who has any common sense at all and an article on it is superfluous but of course everyone flocks to the poor female to give her credit in whiteknight fashion.

I got friendzoned by several women who clearly found me attractive, because my lack of confidence meant I didn't capitalise on the situation. I know for a fact they fancied me because the one went out of her way to introduce herself to me at work in a flirty way, the one accidentally text me saying, "He's even better looking than before" years after first meeting, and I ended up getting a hand job off one years later, when I was more confident. I've also known many hot girls with good looking straight beta friends who they would definately fuck if the guys were low inhibition. You forget that one quality a girl looks for in a friend is that he's not a sexual threat. This is why girls have good looking gay friends. Why would looks matter if they aren't going to fuck them? Well they do. Girls and gay best friends are invariably looksmatched.

Cynic4life wrote:Girls bite each other throath if they have the chance. The competition between them is HUGE. Remember that there are 50% girls out there, 3% males and 47% decoration. All girls compete for these 3% males. They can ONLY have a meaningful and honest conversation with the 47% males that are non-threatening to the other females. Hence enter the friendzone...

why 3%?
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Paradigm Shift wrote:Most guys who get "friend-zoned" attribute their situation to a lack of confidence and social skills, yet many of these guys are actually more socially adept than either the PUA community or mainstream dating advice gives them credit for. If they were giving off the "creep" vibe, those girls would not even be friends with them in the first place. Also, if you have enough social intuition and confidence to maintain a genuine, REAL friendship with a woman, then a lack of these things is _NOT_ what is holding you back in the game of love!!

The most common reason for the "friendzone" is what I like to call the "looks wall". He clearly has at least decent social skills if he has genuine, REAL female friends. His social skills aren't the problem. She likes hanging out with him, but she doesn't find him good looking enough to qualify for either a sexual or romantic relationship with her, so she puts up a wall between those boundaries.

If you are good looking, a sizeable chunk of your female friends WILL end up being "with benefits" someday ;). They have their needs, and they aren't these strange, esoteric, absurdly complex sexual oddities that many guys assume them to be. If you had a female friend who was also a hottie, would YOU fuck her if the chance presented itself? Guess what? So would SHE if the genders were flipped! It's quite common for women to fuck one of their male friends while she is between relationships.

I cringe when the PUA community brings up the "friendzone". Just because a guy is only friends with a girl does NOT mean he isn't fucking her! In most cases, a guy who was "friendzoned" wasn't really "friendzoned" at all, he just hit the looks wall. What many guys out there don't understand is this: If you can make genuine, lasting friendships with women, you ALREADY HAVE the social confidence and people skills required for MORE than friendship with women! If a girl "puts you in the friendzone", but really wants to be friends - not just the typical "LJBF" excuse -, then she just wasn't physically attracted to you. It's your looks, not your "beta behavior" or lack of game.

Remember this:

Women will BEFRIEND a confident, socially adept man.
They might MARRY a wealthy man.
They will RESPECT a dominant man or a man with game.
They will DESIRE a good looking man.
They will DENY that sexual attraction is mainly looks.

The platonic friend, the potential husband, and the lover. Those are the 3 main categories a woman puts you in. The holy grail among women is a man who fits all 3, but for long term relationships, most have to settle for a man they don't really desire - and THAT's why so many marriages end in divource!

(For more, please check out the blog in my sig below)

Legit...perfect post.

If i get friendzoned, its likely ill get another girlfriend before i ever date the first one. And those girls that friendzone you make bad company even if they call you a good friend. Im hot but half the girls prefer a gangster. You shouldnt really try with your friends theyll just break your heart

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WeisseWolfe wrote:A so-called "redpilled" woman wrote this and yet she cannot even get it 100% straight. Looks are everything. Looks make you who you are. Ted Bundy a good looking guy was able to murder dozens of women just based on his LOOKS. And money and status as well. But if you don't look the part no one will BUY IT even when presented with evidence.

But this is obvious to anyone who has any common sense at all and an article on it is superfluous but of course everyone flocks to the poor female to give her credit in whiteknight fashion.

+1

I got frienzoned by a bitch who told me I was "quite goodlooking".

I tried a few advances over her and she told me that was feelling "offended" cause I tried to kiss her. "See you as friend" was what she told me.

"you´re not my type, althought you´re goodlooking."


So, why did you flirt with me? -I asked her... "Why if you were not attracted??"


"I don´t know...I think is funny"- was her answer...
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