Cynic4life wrote:Indeed. Most guys here on sluthate are incels and have incel friends. They absolutely cannot relate to this other planet where MM's live. I have been in 'PUA' for years and sometimes I went out with model-looking guys. The redpill is brutally forced to you in your ass, mixed with wodka. I have seen hot girls FIGHTING with each other just to have a chance to talk to my friend. The only reason you exist is because the girls can approach you to ask you introduce her to your friend.
I still know a lot of woman, and they share their "problems" with me. It's always the same story. They feel entitled to a chad and they can only talk about this one chad that they have in their mind. They have a depression when this chad rejects her. Average looking dudes are just decoration and ugly men are repulsive. They talk to you that they cannot find a boyfriend. You point them some other incels who are desperate for love and intimacy and the woman get angry at you. They actually become physically sick thinking they could be together with an incel. One minute of alpha is enough for them to fill a lifetime of sex.
Yoda, I feel for you, and I do not. Because I'm in exactly the same situation as you and I try to not be in pity for myself. However, I just think you are plain ugly. Being ethnic is not so important. You just have to be ugly to be non-existent and repulsive to woman. Race and dancing and other stuff are not so important.
Good post, and I can't really disagree with what you have stated here, and yes I am plain ugly and repulsive to women, there is no point in sugar coating reality, but I did not raise this post to solicit any sympathy, I don't want it, it's of no use to me, plus there are a ton of people in this world who are way worse off than what I am. I raised this post, at the request of another poster who wanted a detailed account as to what happened on this particular cruise.
However ethnicity and race do a play a part, as women do have strong racial preferences when it comes to men, and even the media has reported on it, please see the Sun Herald article written below written by the late Sam De Brito of the Sydney Morning Herald:
All Tainted By A Love Of Hate
Sunday November 30, 2008
Sam De Brito
USE the word "gook" or "coon" at a party nowadays and you'll more than likely have someone object or at least shake their head in total disgust.
Call someone a "dirty Leb", however, and you'll probably draw a crowd of nodding social commentators, spouting their own rationales for dissing Lebanese; wombats who confuse subjective "bad" experiences with objective insight into culture.
That's because in the pantheon of Sydney's racists and their loathed nationalities, men of "Middle Eastern appearance" (MEA), particularly the Lebanese, now occupy a position below Asians, all other types of "wogs", South African Jews, even Aborigines. Trashing and discriminating against Lebs is now officially a free kick for racists, which will come as no surprise if you're a young man of MEA who's tried to get into a nightclub east of Hurstville.
Socialising in Sydney can be a frustrating business if you don't have a certain look and men of MEA are not the only ones who get knocked back by doormen for any number of traits including age, sexuality, shoes, "coolness" or apparent wealth. Most of those you can work on if you're desperate to get into the latest wanker establishment. But your race?
That's a little tougher and as social stigmas go on a Saturday night, I'd rather be Gordon Wood's javelin coach than a guy of MEA.
Racist door policies at nightclubs, however, are only the tip of the spear when it comes to attitudes towards Lebanese men. The larger problem is ignorance about the Lebanese and people of Middle Eastern heritage.
Most worrying of all is that in 2008, Australians still need someone to hate.
My ex-girlfriend, who's full-blood Lebanese and one of the most elegant, thoughtful, beautiful women I know, says it's been a lifelong experience having people say to her, "Where are you from?" and her grandmother was born in Australia. That's usually as bad as it gets for her but her brothers, despite coming from a family that's lived in this country for more than 70 years and produced a member of parliament, still can't get into three-quarters of the nightclubs in their city.
The human brain learns via generalisations. We come to understand that a knife looks a certain way and it cuts, so all knives do the same. Unfortunately, there are people who extend this kind of rudimentary cognition to people and cultures: a Lebanese man did this to me, so all Lebanese men do this.
Sure, there are aggressive, antisocial Lebanese men in Sydney, just like there are alcoholic Irish and fat Americans. But to demonise all members of a cultural group because of the bad behaviour of a few is lazy.
It's also called prejudice.
The thing that staggers me about this mindset is that people rarely see the chicken-and-egg nature of the problems they rail against. I don't know about you but I had issues to sort through in my teens. Apart from the usual hurdles of adolescent self-esteem I got called wog at school and it had an effect.
Now consider this: if you're a 21-year-old guy of MEA, in the years since the horrendous gang rapes by the Skaf brothers and September 11, there's a good chance you've been branded a rapist, thief and terrorist and that you're not to be trusted around women.
Try those labels on for size. Wiggle your shoulders. Live it for a few seconds, then make that your everyday existence. Reckon you'd be a little defensive, maybe a bit pissed off?
Any time we run across a surly Leb, wince at the music coming from a stereo in a car driven by swarthy men or see the same guys pick a fight, we add it to prejudice's putrid soup, use it as further justification for our hate.
This hatred doesn't require logic - which is why I've heard morons saying it was Arabs who planned the Bali bombings, why Sikhs got hate mail after 9/11 because they wear turbans, why an Indian student got attacked by crowds of "patriots" during the Cronulla riots.
Meanwhile, the crimes of so called Anglos like outback murderer Bradley Murdoch, the aforementioned Gap geek Gordon Wood, Melbourne CBD shooter Christopher Wayne Hudson and almost every outlaw biker gang are forgotten, considered merely an aberration.
A doctor mate of mine, Shamus, sent around an email after the Cronulla riots in response to some pretty heated words on the internet.
"It's one of the most difficult things to do but I don't think you can judge whole races because of bad experiences you've had," Shamus said. "Jesus was pretty good at it and while I'm not in his class, I was once assaulted by an Asian gang but I still eat Chinese food.
"I've been beaten up by a jockey (it was a pretty close fight) but I still go to the races. I've been manhandled by Islanders on the football field but I still hug most bouncers when I walk into their clubs."
At least Shamus can get in.
Sam de Brito is the author of The Lost Boys and Building A Better Bloke.