My slayer friend, and the cruise we went on back in 1992.

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For those of you who recalled my previous post about my good looking slayer friend who I went on a South Pacific cruise with back in March 1992, there's no need for you to read this post any further, for those who haven't here is a detailed account as to what happened (of course real names and identities will remain anonymous).

I first met my good looking slayer friend back in 1990 (who we will call "Tim", not his real name), when I used to work in the admin department of a major life insurance and superannuation company, and even then I could tell this guy did it easy with the ladies. Every two weeks, on a Friday, our firm would hold a staff happy hour where without fail, "Tim" would be surrounded by at least 3 to 4 attractive women all vying for his "affections" ie. his cock. Prior to myself and "Tim" going on the cruise, he had an inter office relationship (it was more a hook up) with a very attractive (but slightly chubby) blonde woman. "Tim" had also sired a son (when he was 19) from a previous relationship.

As I got to know "Tim" , he told me just how easy he had it when it came to women and sex, he had lost his virginity at 15, and given his height ( he is just over 6ft), good looks (full head of hair), race (he is white Australian of Irish-Catholic heritage) and athletic, muscular physique (he was also an all around athlete, ie, he was a state sprinter in the 100 metres sprint, competent body builder, he played a high level of Rugby League, he is a 6th Dan in Tak Wan Do martial arts, and even went to South Korea to collect his award where he showed me his certificates), which I believed, because he could back it all up, as I had clearly discovered and would discover over and over again.

In October 1991, myself and "Tim" paid $2,000 AUD each for a reasonably large cabin with two double bunks on each side and a porthole.

On Friday 20th March 1992, myself and "Tim", boarded the P&O cruiser "Fairstar" in Sydney on a two week cruise that would take us to Vanuatu, Fiji, Darvuni Island (part of of Fiji) and New Caledonia then back to Sydney on Friday 3rd April. After we had been cleared through customs/immigration, myself and "Tim" proceeded to stand against the side rail as we were being waved farewell and bon voyage by the large crowd at the port. It was here that I was given my most savage and brutal lesson on just how shallow and superficial women are, and that if your looks (and race), are not up to par, finding any woman is often going to be a very frustrating and self esteem crushing experience.

As myself and "Tim" were standing at the side of the cruise ship waiting for it to depart, we met two young women from Melbourne who happened to be Italian-Australian, one of whom was OK looking, the other very attractive. After myself and "Tim" introduced ourselves to these young women, the reactions and body language of these women to the both of us were as stark as the difference between night and day. Upon seeing my ugly, ethnic head, both of these women instantly turned their backs on me, ignored every word I said, and they were completely focused on "Tim" with their eyes lit up like a Christmas tree, and smiles as wide as the Grand Canyon, I soon got the hint and walked away feeling very pissed off.

On the first night of the cruise myself and "Tim" were having dinner in the main dining hall of the ship, where we were paired up with two nice young women from the South Coast of NSW, they were polite, but I could tell from their body language they saw me as nothing more than a nice person hang around with, but not fuck, but hey that's cool, at least these women were always courteous and polite to me. As myself and "Tim" were having dinner, in the corner of my left eye, I could see a table about 10 metres to my left of a group of smoking hot Aussie women, one of whom could not stop staring at "Tim" (she obviously was repulsed by my ugly head), I said to myself in my head ("In 24 hours, "Tim" is going to fuck this woman staring at him"), and lo and behold I was bang on the money, within 24 hours, "Tim" fucked this hot looking woman who I later discovered was from South Australia.

Each night of the cruise, there was a disco/nightclub held on the stern (that's the rear of the ship), and doing a rough head count, I came to the conclusion that there were actually more women than men, which is a change from the usual sausage fest most nightclubs and bars tend to be. Initially, I have to confess I thought I might have a chance here, but this is where I first observed the 20/80 rule-female hypergamy phenomenon in full force. Basically, all the ugly/or ethnic guys like me were by ourselves with our drinks/dicks in our hands, whilst the good looking guys and slayers took all the women (even the average and ugly ones). Of course, over the two weeks of the cruise I would have approached around 14 to 15 women, and of course they all rejected me instantly and brutally just because of my ugly looks and race. With "Tim" of course, it was a completely different story, in my estimation "Tim" must have fucked at least 15 women (maybe even more) over the two weeks of the cruise, basically "Tim" was treated like royalty by women, whereas us ugly incels were treated like cockroaches.

Probably the most demoralising and self esteem crushing rejection I copped was about mid way through the cruise, where one night, myself, "Tim", a farmer from Western Australia and a young guy from New Zealand met three young women also from New Zealand. Once again, when I introduced myself to these three women, they all pretty much turned their backs on me, gave me dirty looks, the silent treatment etc, it was pretty clear that I was the unwanted one here, so I quickly got the hint, and walked away backed to my cabin. As I walked away, I briefly turned around and saw the other three guys making out with these women from New Zealand, what a kick in the guts. To rub further salt in to the wounds, the very next morning when I went to answer a knock at the door of the cabin I was sharing with "Tim", the same three women who rejected me the night before were all asking for "Tim" ("Tim" was in the toilet/shower when I answered the door).

With "Tim" banging women left, right and centre (just because of his looks, and nothing else), he hardly slept in our cabin, and before the cruise we made an arrangement where if "Tim" bought back a girl to our cabin and I wasn't there, that he would place a "do not disturb" sign on the door, so that I would not embarrass him and any woman he was with. Ironically enough, this happened on the very last night/morning of the cruise. On the Friday morning as the ship was a few hours from returning back to Sydney, I went to the toilet, and moments later, I heard a knock on the door from "Tim", and mistakenly I thought I heard "Tim" say "Master Yoda, don't come out I am with someone", I said "OK, I will lock myself in the toilet/shower, until you are finished with your young lady and are dressed and decent". Moments later "Tim" knocked again and said "Master Yoda, are you OK?", I replied "You said don't come out, your with a lady", but then it was discovered that a misunderstanding had occured (it's a bit hard to hear someone clearly through a 2" thick solid steel door.). "Tim" said, "you can come out, myself and the lady are still dressed", when I opened the door, I could see "Tim" and the woman he picked up cuddling on his bunk (they were still dressed), I didn't want to sabotage "Tim's" pick up, so I very quickly said "look guys I am going for a walk", and quickly made my exit, it was rather obvious what they were going to do.

Whilst the women side of the cruise sucked for me, I did the enjoy the rest of the cruise, and saw some beautiful tropical nations and swam in some beautiful beaches and experienced some wonderful cultures (especially the friendly people from Fiji), but the lessons I learned were:

1) If you are going out looking to meet women DO NOT, and I stress DO NOT go with a guy who is much better looking than you are, you will get IGNORED AND REJECTED by women in favour of your better looking friend, I guarantee that, and other men have told me the same thing. The "Wing Man' theory is complete and utter BULLSHIT.

2) Women are shallow, superficial creatures that are attracted to shiny things, and if you don't pass the looks/race test, it's GAME OVER.

3) The 20/80 rule-female hypergamy is not some crazy tin-foil hat conspiracy theory it's real, very fucking real and I have personally witnessed it countless times.

4) LOOKS and RACE matter, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a fucking idiot and needs an urgent reality check.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, I am not making any of this up.
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Interesting story, I read it all.

Don't really know what to say except at least you enjoyed the trip. Women aren't everything in life, but it does suck that you got treated that way.

fucking brutal man... i understand why you're so redpilled after an experience like that

i'm actually a bit surprised you were even friends with this slayer, but then again i know a lot of slayers are really friendly guys contrary to what most would imagine

thickneckedslayer wrote:fucking brutal man... i understand why you're so redpilled after an experience like that

i'm actually a bit surprised you were even friends with this slayer, but then again i know a lot of slayers are really friendly guys contrary to what most would imagine


I'm good friends with a slayer who is only like 5'7 and I'm invisible around him. I'm 6'2

He has fucked a good amount of girls since I began living with him, but usually settles for quality over quantity i.e fuckbuddies.

Good guy though, and he passes girls off to me sometimes and they take me as a second choice on occasion



Story was well worth the read, although reading it did make me very angry :uzi: :uzi:
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RodgerRabbit wrote:Trying to fix yourself is literally a race against the clock. It's a catch 22. By the time you've fixed all the flaws that prevented you from slaying, you will have lost the one thing most essential to slaying in the first place -- youth.
NewGenious119 wrote:This idea that nobody owes anyone anything completely goes against the entire point of even having a society in the first place. If society doesn't owe an individual person anything, then the individual owes society nothing either, so don't be surprised when they take their frustration out on the world.

There is absolutely NO GOOD reason why, in the 21st century, every person shouldn't have their basic needs met. That means food, shelter, clothing, and transportation for all and, yes, if you are a male, sexual access to attractive females as that is considered a basic need for men as well.
Leebyunghun wrote:The number one source of strife in human existence is the inequality of looks among the male species.
germanDream wrote:a woman would fuck a cute dog or horse over an average faced man ANY day of the week. its not even close. women are repulsed by non male model men
PuaKiller wrote:Most women couldn't last a month as an incel male. They'd suicide. Prostitution would be legal worldwide and virgin shaming would cease if women were put in the shoes of an incel male for even a month. They couldn't handle it.
firehaze wrote:If a girl has never made it obvious that she likes you then you're a lot more subhuman than you think.



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thickneckedslayer wrote:fucking brutal man... i understand why you're so redpilled after an experience like that

i'm actually a bit surprised you were even friends with this slayer, but then again i know a lot of slayers are really friendly guys contrary to what most would imagine


This slayer is a good guy, and he invited me to both his wedding and the christening of his baby daughter, which I duly attended, and to be fair, he did try to give some advice regarding women, but how does a a good looking slayer teach an ugly incel like me how to be preselected by women?



greekgod wrote:Interesting story, I read it all.

Don't really know what to say except at least you enjoyed the trip. Women aren't everything in life, but it does suck that you got treated that way.


Cheers and thanks for your comments, I guess you can only live and learn. As young men, we are taught that we have to approach women, or make the first move, which was the advice that I, and most other men put into practice, what we weren't told is that you shouldn't really approach a woman, unless she gives you the green light to do so (usually via her body language).
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baldingcorpse wrote:Hair > height. That pretty much known by anybody. Baldness make u subhuman

+1
I concur, and very, very few men can pull off the bald look, and unfortunately I am not one of them.

yoda would you consider this slayer "8+" as people on here say? did he have any flaws in his appearance?

It has nothing to do with being ethnic you idiot. Its because your a bald ugly manlet. Subhumans are all the same dosent matter what race they are.

Master Yoda wrote:
baldingcorpse wrote:Hair > height. That pretty much known by anybody. Baldness make u subhuman

+1
I concur, and very, very few men can pull off the bald look, and unfortunately I am not one of them.


Still as 6 ft 2 you could fuck some midget girls in israel. Try being 5 ft 7 and bald like me

Master Yoda wrote:
thickneckedslayer wrote:fucking brutal man... i understand why you're so redpilled after an experience like that

i'm actually a bit surprised you were even friends with this slayer, but then again i know a lot of slayers are really friendly guys contrary to what most would imagine


This slayer is a good guy, and he invited me to both his wedding and the christening of his baby daughter, which I duly attended, and to be fair, he did try to give some advice regarding women, but how does a a good looking slayer teach an ugly incel like me how to be preselected by women?



Thanks for sharing

I was nearly in tears as these experiences mirrored mine. I'm not an ethnic, if it makes you feel any better, us weird looking white manleta don't do any better

A couple of my friends have also been slayers and I agree that they can be bros. the one thing I would add on that point is that in a sense he is using you.. even a slayer is a bit comfortable going out on a cruise or to a party alone , with an ugly "wing" he has someone to talk to until some girls come, and he doesn't look weird standing around by himself. And he won't be worried about competition. But that's how it is
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Master Yoda wrote:
thickneckedslayer wrote:fucking brutal man... i understand why you're so redpilled after an experience like that

i'm actually a bit surprised you were even friends with this slayer, but then again i know a lot of slayers are really friendly guys contrary to what most would imagine


This slayer is a good guy, and he invited me to both his wedding and the christening of his baby daughter, which I duly attended, and to be fair, he did try to give some advice regarding women, but how does a a good looking slayer teach an ugly incel like me how to be preselected by women?


tbh I would have been totally jealous of the guy and it probably would have sunk the friendship

just out of curiousity what advice did the guy give?

Outstanding and eye-opening!
I also gathered that you were a decent, nice guy from the story which made it even more humiliating & painful.
I'm also surprised by the fact that this was back in the 90s where there was no social networking and online dating at the magnitude of nowadays. Who's to blame then? I dare to say that women were always this way: shallow, manipulative, brutal and love to reject any guy who failed the "looks test " as far as their sexual power goes. The more choices she has, the more she's corrupted and ruthless.
The closest I experienced a similar misfortune was when I backpacked solo in a beautiful coastal town, I remember stay the night at this backpacker's place and women of all ages and beauty would ignore me. That's not what I had in mind. But I had no problems mingling with other foreign male backpackers, we shared our experiences, places we've seen, etc.
All my life I believed in a falacy that men take charge and have the upperhand: they just confidently takes a woman they want by her hands, after bitter, painful rejections it dawned on me that in the dating game it's women who rule.

Lol the "don't come in part" made lol, women don't want you to check out their bodies when their covered up, while at the same time slutting up for a slayer in his room. I would have more respect for a church nun then these shallow whores.

thickneckedslayer wrote:yoda would you consider this slayer "8+" as people on here say? did he have any flaws in his appearance?

Yes, he is a solid 8+, his only flaw was that when he was a teenager he did have some nasty acne, that he was able to treat successfully with the use of antibiotics, so he does have some minor acne scarring, but nothing major.
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OmegaKV wrote:Story was well worth the read, although reading it did make me very angry :uzi: :uzi:

I am glad to hear that you enjoyed my post, and my apologies if it made you upset, but I can only give an honest account of what happened on that cruise. This particular cruise was not the only occasion I observed my slayer friend do well (or should that be),get preselected by women, four years later in 1996 on his bucks night one week before his wedding(that's bachelor party to those of you in the USA), he had a threesome (that's right two women fucked him) with two women he met a club.

backagain wrote:
Master Yoda wrote:
This slayer is a good guy, and he invited me to both his wedding and the christening of his baby daughter, which I duly attended, and to be fair, he did try to give some advice regarding women, but how does a a good looking slayer teach an ugly incel like me how to be preselected by women?


tbh I would have been totally jealous of the guy and it probably would have sunk the friendship

just out of curiousity what advice did the guy give?


I won't lie in saying that I didn't feel some degree of jealousy, of course I was jealous, who wouldn't be?, but at the end of the day, I knew that it was nothing he did or say that made him attractive to women, he simply won out in the genetics lottery which meant that women would preselect him.

He did or said nothing to sink our friendship, it's not his fault that women are shallow creatures, he just took advantage of the gifts his genes have him, you can't hate someone for that.

The advice he gave me was fairly generic sort of stuff like fashion sense, and he taught me a few dance moves (my slayer friend was a very talented dancer in addition to his athleticism), not that it did me any good as I hate dancing (I suck at it, plus what woman wants to dance with an ugly ethnic subhuman like me?). Also, whilst being well dressed may improve the looks of an ugly guy, at the end of day you can't pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes.

baldingcorpse wrote:
Master Yoda wrote:+1
I concur, and very, very few men can pull off the bald look, and unfortunately I am not one of them.


Still as 6 ft 2 you could fuck some midget girls in israel. Try being 5 ft 7 and bald like me

I too am 5"7, and bald so you are preaching to the converted regarding the importance of height and having a full head of hair.

baldingcorpse wrote:It has nothing to do with being ethnic you idiot. Its because your a bald ugly manlet. Subhumans are all the same dosent matter what race they are.

I know that, so why are you calling me an idiot?

Master Yoda wrote:
baldingcorpse wrote:It has nothing to do with being ethnic you idiot. Its because your a bald ugly manlet. Subhumans are all the same dosent matter what race they are.

I know that, so why are you calling me an idiot?

he calls everyone idiot. dont take it personally

but i respect u for being able to still enjoy the trip

thats fortitude and zen
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Anal prolapse wrote:I can't believe anybody actually read that shit

Why?, it's an accurate and brutally honest account of what happened, I also included a disclaimer at the start of the post warning that it was going to be a long read.

Ceran wrote:A couple of my friends have also been slayers and I agree that they can be bros. the one thing I would add on that point is that in a sense he is using you.. even a slayer is a bit comfortable going out on a cruise or to a party alone , with an ugly "wing" he has someone to talk to until some girls come, and he doesn't look weird standing around by himself. And he won't be worried about competition. But that's how it is


+1 This.

Women do this shit all the time actually. Bring an uglier friend with her so she's not by herself but it also makes her look better. She'll completely ignore the Uggo when some dicks are around to hit on her though. :pistodouble: :pistodouble: :uzi:

That was a very good, well-written text. I read the whole thing.

I'm sorry you had to experience that. I could feel the brutalness of the events through my screen.

I think it's great that you brought another redpill to light: that being a slayer doesn't necessarily make you a bad guy, and men - not being complete and utter sociopaths like women - can bond and form friendships over things of actual substance.

Again, great read.

Cheers.
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15 girls in 14 days. A guy on my grad trip slept with 13 girls in 7 days. He was a 9-Chad. He's about a 6.5-7 now because of all the drugs and booze.

That's how it is OP. Good looking guys fuck a lot of women. I'm not Chad-tier but I've had success with women and I know its because of my looks and nothing really else. A women wants more substance in a LTR, but looks plays a strong role in her overall attractiveness to you. I was also very close with a Chad slayer and he slayed a lot of women but he was also very judgemental of people and secretly insecure (although he was cool and nice to me).
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I get so mad when people try to deny that looks don't matter when it's so freaking obvious it does.

Unlike you, I can't help but feeling jealous when I'm around good looking guys. I have a few attractive male friends and I always avoid going out with them, even just walk around with them as I can't stand the attention they get and it makes me very sad.
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